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  2. I see Trump finally got his Military parade, he must be so pleased... President Trump, wheezing through clenched teeth attempts a 'heroic figure' walk. 'Trump’s Re-Election Chances Are Going Down in Flames.' How Trump's Divisive Rhetoric Could Hurt Republicans in November https://time.com/5846311/trump-protests-republican-fallout/
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  4. for us non subscribers " Episcopal bishop on President Trump: ‘Everything he has said and done is to inflame violence’ The Right Rev. Mariann Budde, the Episcopal bishop of Washington, was seething. President Trump had just visited St. John’s Episcopal Church, which sits across from the White House. It was a day after a fire was set in the basement of the historic building amid protests over the death of George Floyd in the custody of Minneapolis police. Before heading to the church, where presidents have worshiped since the days of James Madison, Trump gave a speech at the White House emphasizing the importance of law and order. Federal officers then used force to clear a large crowd of peaceful demonstrators from the street between the White House and the church, apparently so Trump could make the visit. “I am outraged,” Budde said in a telephone interview a short time later, pausing between words to emphasize her anger as her voice slightly trembled. She said she had not been given any notice that Trump would be visiting the church and did not approve of the manner in which the area was secured for his appearance. “I am the bishop of the Episcopal Diocese of Washington and was not given even a courtesy call, that they would be clearing [the area] with tear gas so they could use one of our churches as a prop,” Budde said. She excoriated the president for standing in front of the church — its windows boarded up with plywood — holding up a Bible, which Budde said “declares that God is love.” “Everything he has said and done is to inflame violence,” Budde of the president. “We need moral leadership, and he’s done everything to divide us.” In a written statement, Presiding Bishop Michael Curry, head of the Episcopal denomination, accused Trump of using “a church building and the Holy Bible for partisan political purposes.” “This was done in a time of deep hurt and pain in our country, and his action did nothing to help us or to heal us,” Curry wrote. “The prophet Micah taught that the Lord requires us to ‘do justice, love mercy and walk humbly with our God,’ ” he continued, calling on Trump and others in power to be moral. “For the sake of George Floyd, for all who have wrongly suffered, and for the sake of us all, we need leaders to help us to be ‘one nation, under God, with liberty and justice for all.’ ” Budde and Curry are among the pantheon of progressive religious leaders who have long been critical of Trump’s political agenda. The Episcopal Church’s policies include supporting abortion rights, refugee resettlement, an expansion of health care and other issues that Trump has opposed or not embraced. According to the Pew Research Center, 49 percent of Episcopalians are Democrats or lean Democratic, compared with 39 percent of church members who are Republican or lean Republican. Trump’s longtime religious allies, who are far more conservative on both domestic and foreign policy, saw his walk to St. John’s much differently. “What kind of church I need PERMISSION to attend,” tweeted Pastor Mark Burns of South Carolina after Budde and others said Trump should have let them know he was coming. “Jesus welcomes All.” Johnnie Moore, a spokesman for several of Trump’s evangelical religious advisers, tweeted favorably about the incident as well. “I will never forget seeing @POTUS @realDonaldTrump slowly & in-total-command walk from the @WhiteHouse across Lafayette Square to St. John’s Church defying those who aim to derail our national healing by spreading fear, hate & anarchy,” he wrote. “After just saying, ‘I will keep you safe.’ ” Trump did not enter St. John’s on Monday evening. No one associated with the church was present for his visit. Andrew Whitehead, a sociologist at Clemson University who studies Christian nationalism, said the president’s appearance was an attempt to promote the idea of America as a distinctly Christian nation after his Rose Garden speech. “Going to the church, not going in it, not meeting with any clergy, holding up a Bible, but not quoting any scripture, after an authoritarian speech, was about using the religious symbolism for his ends,” Whitehead said. “It was a signal to the people that embrace the idea of a Christian nation, that he will defend Christianity in the public sphere,” Whitehead said. “He said he’ll make America safe. That raised the question, for whom? It’s largely for white, mostly Protestant America.” Budde — who spent 18 years in as a rector in Minneapolis before being elected bishop of the Washington diocese — said the Episcopal Church disassociates itself from the messages offered by the president. “We hold the teachings of our sacred texts to be so so grounding to our lives and everything we do,” she said. “It is about love of neighbor and sacrificial love and justice.” Following a tradition set by President Franklin D. Roosevelt, Trump attended a service at St. John’s before his swearing-in ceremony in 2017. He visited the church again that year to mark a national day of prayer for victims of Hurricane Harvey and in 2019 on St. Patrick’s Day. Budde said she learned he was headed back to the yellow, 19th-century building on Monday by watching the news. “No one knew this was happening,” she said. “I don’t want President Trump speaking for St. John’s.” The Rev. Robert W. Fisher, the church rector, said he felt blindsided by the visit. Usually, the White House gives the church at least 30 minutes’ notice before the president comes by. “We want St. John’s to be a space for grace, as a place where you can breathe,” he said. “Being used as a prop, it really takes away from what we’re trying to do.” Earlier in the day, Fisher said, he and other clergy were outside the church handing out water bottles and granola bars to protesters, and expressing solidarity with their cause. He said he left the area to be interviewed on television about the damage from the fire the previous night and later watched images of the protest being dismantled “with disbelief.” Fisher, 44, became the rector of St. John’s in June 2019 and has not yet hosted a presidential visit. The church usually draws about 400 people on a typical weekend. But it has been closed since mid-March due to the broad shutdown restrictions in place to combat the novel coronavirus. Damage to the building from Sunday night’s fire and vandalism will cost at least $20,000, Fisher said. But he said the destruction should not become the focus of what has been happening in the streets outside the White House. Fisher said that when people have talked about the church being burned, he has tried to redirect them, saying it was likely one person who does not represent the majority of people protesting. “That has pulled away from the more important message that we have to address racism in this country,” he said." https://www.washingtonpost.com/religion/bishop-budde-trump-church/2020/06/01/20ca70f8-a466-11ea-b619-3f9133bbb482_story.html?fbclid=IwAR13l6QteGLzXXGf1oNZiJIp3v-1lrhn4Ne4kQ_6RpiaNM36FJCvbLlWsaQ
  5. Bordmember radioman, there are no words to express the full volume of gratitude towards yourself after having studied your valuable advice not only repeatedly but simultaneously thouroghly. Many people lough about my telephone but they are not Aware of what multiple strategies are coming with it´s presentation. I promise to elaborate further on tomorrow morning because I am now under the increasing influence of a bottle of French rosé named Pure and a cigar from Honduras. My apologies. For the moment I may point out that life is good as such.
  6. when are the good pastors gonna call out the evangelicals? unfortunately, wash post is blocked for non subscribers https://www.washingtonpost.com/religion/bishop-budde-trump-church/2020/06/01/20ca70f8-a466-11ea-b619-3f9133bbb482_story.html?fbclid=IwAR13l6QteGLzXXGf1oNZiJIp3v-1lrhn4Ne4kQ_6RpiaNM36FJCvbLlWsaQ https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/01/politics/cnntv-bishop-trump-photo-op/index.html
  7. 150 years ago, the American streets were paved in gold in the minds of people in far off lands. These days, CNN is on cable tv packages in many countries. Youtube is global on people's phones. What is happening in America is in the here and now and America can no longer control its own PR. Internally many don't care but our international stature is taking hits. And its part of the overall decline.
  8. How I'm treated in America is one of the first questions I'm asked sometimes. Usually in Europe. Cabbies in London have asked me. Random conversations with locals in Barcelona when I visited 3 years ago. But also, once by a Korean cop at a local precinct I used to go to for basic services (finger printing for forms, etc,). I try to be diplomatic. America is my country and I don't like to shit on the country, I have a Philly neighborhood upbringing where you keep neighborhood business in the neighborhood and I used to apply that to America as a whole. I discuss American issues with other other Americans. Not any more since the world is now connected electronically and people are interacting globally more than at any time in human history. The fact I'm asked it arbitrarily tells you how America's 'dirty little secrets' are known. This forum is one of them. Its an American thread but international in people who post or have lurked.
  9. Are there any other "western countries" whatever that term means, that has anything worse as America's endemic issues? Spain has issues with both Basque and Catalan. France has issues with its moslem north Africans Arabs and Blacks. England has some issues as well. Oz, some, but as far as I can tell nothing as bad. Maybe there is, but I can't think of any off hand unless we are calling South Africa 'western' or Israel 'western'.
  10. Start by grasping the phone in your hand as you normally would, between the thumb and the partially closed fingers of your hand , with the screen up but with the bottom of the phone pointing away from you. Once you have achieved a suitable grip move your hand near to your pants pocket. Ensuring that there is indeed an opening in the pants pocket carefully guide the bottom of the phone to engage with the opening. Carefully continue with the insertion process until the phone is well inserted into the pants pocket. Note that this might require your hand to be fairly deeply embedded in your pants pocket, do not worry and resist the temptation to consider redeployment of your hand. Once the phone is securely embedded in the pants pocket release your grip and withdraw your hand taking care not to allow the phone to become withdrawn at the same time. With your phone now safely located in your pants pocket you can complete the registration task. Retrieve the pencil offered by the outstretched unwashed hand of the grinning security guard dressed in the latest uber scarecrow and who has his face mask wrapped around his chin and one finger deeply ensconced in a nostril. Sign your name, address, date of birth, social security number, sexual orientation, sexual preference, sexual pricing preference and favourite sexual accessories. Write a 200 word statement praising the remarkable achievements of the glorious Snr Sgt Oberstleutnant General Kleiner Schwanz Prayut. Et, voila, shop-on!
  11. Thai Enquirer has a nice piece today 😀 Actually quite fact laden despite the intention being elsewhere. http://www.thaienquirer.com/13861/foreign-affairs-unrest-continues-for-a-seventh-day-in-former-british-colony/ Foreign Affairs: Unrest continues for a seventh day in former British colony Unrest and protests continued for a seventh straight day in the former British colony of the United States as the government vowed to use its military to end the demonstrations, US media reported on Tuesday. The protests began in the small province of Minnesota, located in the agrarian ‘Middle West,’ over the killing of an ethnic minority by state security forces. Protests led by the minority ‘black’ community have erupted throughout the country with the minority group calling for equal rights and better treatment from the government. Protesters have set fire to government installations and looted buildings throughout the country as clashes with security forces continue. The security forces have tried to disperse the protesters with tear gas, rubber bullets and batons but to no avail. US President Donald Trump, who was ‘elected’ in 2016 despite the majority of votes going to his rival candidate, vowed in a speech to bring in the military to end the protests. “I will deploy the United States military and quickly solve the problem for them,” Trump said in a national address. Trump used the opportunity to walk to a religious temple in the national capital Washington DC to proclaim his religious affiliation. Holding a Christian bible in his hand, Trump declared the US “a great nation.” Religious Fundamentalism and persecution of minorities Religious fundamentalism and minority suppression has long been a problem in the former British colony. The United States has had a long history of suppressing and persecuting its various ethnic minorities since the country gained its independence from the United Kingdom in 1776. The treatment of its indigenous ‘Native Americans,’ its imported Asian and Black communities, and its Hispanic community has long been a source of friction. American black minority groups were under a program similar to South Africa’s Apartheid policy until as recently as 1964. Today, the ethnic black community is still detained and killed with impunity by the state security forces and black Americans make up the majority of those incarcerated under the country’s archaic judicial system. Religion also plays a major role in governance with religious beliefs separating key state organs including the country’s highest court where many social laws are passed based on the justices personally held religious convictions. [Disclaimer: Native Americans is in quotations because it is a blanket term used by the ruling class of the US to call the country’s original inhabitants before the Anglo-European invasion. The ‘Native Americans’ are comprised of thousands of tribes, all with their own culture, language and traditions.]
  12. The latest two comedy successes from the White House. Emperor Trump´s grand public appearance heading for the sacred place for his daily prayers supported by holy music from heaven. He should try hovering over the alley next time.
  13. I've NEVER, EVER, EVER known anyone who says they are born again, or the bible is their favorite book, who can't rattle off verses. Again, I'm the son of a baptist Deacon, who hasn't picked up a bible in ages. But can rattle off several simple verses. He's full of shit. As always.
  14. Get one of your entourage to carry a jesus phone and do it for you?
  15. Trump with a Bible giving the religious man. The most obscene setup so far.
  16. I swear it ain´t no joke but this is my real telephone. I don´t need anything else. The esteemed community should come up with useful suggestions how to operate the mysterious app on this my my beloved unit.
  17. Trump says if the states didn't stop it or can't or won't he will dispatch the military and solve it per his own words. A few things. What happened to the right of the states? That's what his 'very nice people' waving confederate flags says. Second, we have a leader that doesn't know the constitution. You can not dispatch the US military domestically. Any 8th grade B student who has a civics class knows this.
  18. The world has spoken What has never been discussed in America is that there was immense pressure on the America in the Civil Rights era. The young in England were very vocal to their government for not doing more to call out America. Also, there was a huge fear in the government that they would lose out in the international community. What has been pretty much excluded from the road to the voting rights act is that at the time there was a cold war. There were scores of new countries, specifically in Africa and SE Asia into the UN. The USSR was telling these countries that they never owned slaves or had colonies and that they shouldn't side with a nation that is oppressing people that looked like them. Starting with Ghana in 1954, many African nations became independent as well as the Caribbean (Jamaica, etc.) So a whole lot of new votes in the UN as well as spheres of influence. LBJ knew this all too well. The southern states didn't because it was only local to them but the government had to look globally for obvious reasons. https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/01/world/george-floyd-global-protests-intl/index.html
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    Straya, 'merica for beginners...
  20. Now fast forward to today, you have cities like LA, and Chicago with tens of thousands of black and latino gangs who are well armed and have shot more people exponentially far more than the cops ever have, add in the 1000s of former Iraq and Afghanistan vets in those areas. The vast majority have extensive search and destroy experience. The guy who set up sniper fire on the cops in Dallas was a war vet in the middle east. One person took out several cops. Expand that to hundreds? Again, it can and likely will get very, very ugly. The government will eventually win...but will lose with the billions in destruction, the economies will be at standstill. Also, the 1967 and 1968 riots were in the north. Today it will be in the south as well, Atlanta, Houston, Miami, Charlotte, Memphis, etc. Lastly, those riots in the 60s was almost exclusively black. From what we see of the uprisings today its far more diverse. So you have latinos and millennial progressive whites involved, plus agent provocateurs from the fringe right who are itching to start their 'Rahowa' (racial holy war) as they often term it in their chat rooms and see it as a chance to put to practice what they do out in the woods at target practice.
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    Australian police probe Aboriginal boy's arrest after video emerges An Australian policeman has been placed on "restricted duties" after being filmed tripping up an Aboriginal boy, who was then pinned to the ground. The video shows the New South Wales Police officer and two colleagues holding the boy down. The incident ended in the boy's arrest and subsequent release, authorities said. He was taken to hospital briefly for observation. NSW Police said its professional standards unit would investigate. The incident happened in the Sydney suburb of Surry Hills on Monday and came to public attention after it was shared on Facebook. Australian media reported the boy was 16 or 17. Criticism of police treatment of indigenous Australians has ramped up this week on the back of protests about George Floyd's death in the US. Protests have been planned around Australia. In the video, three officers are seen speaking to a group of teenagers on a brick path. After the teenager who was later arrested says "I'll crack you in the… jaw, bro" to one officer, the boy is told to "turn around". The officer then kicks the teenager's legs out from beneath him, causing him to fall to the ground. An onlooker is heard is saying that the boy landed on his face. The three officers then pin the boy to the ground, arresting him. NSW Police said the boy was released to his family after being observed for a time in hospital. "An investigation into the circumstances surrounding the arrest is now under way by officers attached to the Professional Standards Command," a police statement said. "The constable involved has been placed on restricted duties while this review is carried out. "Senior officers have met with the community and local elders and will keep them appraised throughout the process." Indigenous Australians comprise almost 30% of adult prison inmates, despite making up only about 3% of the population, according to the Australian Bureau of Statistics. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-528874
  22. Detroit was one of the worst as well a Newark, about 100 cities in total in various states of uprising.
  23. Uglier then. In the summers of 1967 and 1968, there was open exchange of fire between the police/national guard and inner city blacks in scores of cities around the country. Makes anything we have seen from Ferguson, Baltimore, etc, look like a church social. There were 1000s of people with Vietnam war experience. There were ambushes, sniper fire, military tactics used by these guys. It was very, very bad.
  24. It would not surprise me if Donald's friends, the Russians were behind that one. _____ CS you'll forgive me if I think that "Also, it will get ugly. " is here already. I'm seeing coverage of Police and Secret Service and Military looking troops, mistreating and shooting at (rubber bullets or pepper bullets) protestors. Also, clearly identified, not protesting, Media, -photographer blinded with a bullet, - lotspepper sprayed, some in hospital with wounds. This Terrible. ----- I just now watching as peaceful protesters were forcibly cleared from in front, of the White House and from the Lafayette Park, so Trump could do a 'theatre' walk to a nearby church and waffle on about how he is gonna take action, Big man Strong man, I'm surprised he could walk that far, he'll be tired now, time for a sit down and a cheeseburger.
  25. 🤥 https://www.yahoo.com/news/twitter-takes-down-washington-protest-230300318.html
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