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  1. Thaksin has totally miscalculated his chances of getting a reconciliation (read: amnesty) bill passed in the current state of affairs in Thailand, and it nearly backfired to the point of severely destabilizing, if not bringing down Yingluck's cabinet. Thailand is on the verge of a certain unspeakable transition and some very powerful people do not want Thaksin's presence in the country to interfere with that when the time is on. It is now clear for everyone that Thaksin's return is not going to happen in the foreseeable future, and this has a political consequence that perhaps neither Thaksin nor the PTP big guns expected: Yingluck is going to run for re-election and that will be a totally different setting than her first run when she was basically unknown. In my view, everything indicates that, unless something goes badly wrong in Thailand, Yingluck will likely be re-elected and it will be on her own merits, this time around. Her standing as the true leader of the PTP will have to be not only accepted, but promoted by the other top party members in order to win such election; then Thaksin's political relevance would be somewhat reduced. So perhaps, Voranai's scenario is not as unlikely as he writes. It all depends on the timing, the proceedings and the outcome of that 'unspeakable transition'.
  2. Thaksin as trade envoy rumour denied Published on July 6, 2011 The rumour about ousted prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra tipped for the position of Thailand trade envoy was groudless, legal adviser Noppadon Pattama said on Wednesday. "Rumour mongers wanted to cause confustion and divisiveness," he said, insisting Pheu Thai Party had not planned for a Thaksin appointment. The Nation
  3. Uhm, rumor has it that your butt might be the first material to excite the other cons. Bottomline: avoid jail at all costs.
  4. Oh, well, how about just judging Khun Yingluck on her future actions as a head of Government instead of criticizing her by principle because she's T's sister? It's clear enough that as of yet she's T's political creature and as the media like to call her, 'a political rookie'; however she managed to turn the Pheua Thai campaign from a quite unsafe bet into a massive victory. She's a courageous lady, and courage is quite in short supply in LOS. Who knows? Perhaps she's the best thing that has happened in Thai Politics since... many decades. And - sorry for the tired cliché - anyway, it's about the Thai people and their choice. None of our business.
  5. The figure of 13 to 15 times is between the richest and poorest 10% of the population, which is the indicator commonly used by the UNDP, not the 20%. To be fair, that indicator does not tell much about a country's prosperity. The more a country is developing economically, the more the gap is likely to widen. Laos for instance shows 7 for the same indicator, but a bottom-income Laotian is far poorer than his Thai counterpart. In Singapore and Hong-Kong the figure is 18. So, if anything, the gap will go increasing as Thailand grows further, economically. As it was mentioned already, Thailand doesn't suffer from income gap but from opportunity-gap. Policies addressing social issues (health-care, education and more generally human development) are not on par with what the country should be capable to do, considering it's positive economic dynamics. Also, I don't think that those issues are directly the cause of the political mayhem, it's just amplifying it.
  6. As unlikely as it may appear, I'll come to the defense of TH here. He's always very careful about the integrity of his argumentation in terms of always backing them with verifiable facts. Obviously, he's also very careful at leaving out other facts that can go against his views, but that's fair game when it comes to political discussion and argumentation. On the other hand there are other posters in this very thread who have stated things that are blatantly untrue Re. the institutional situation in 2005-2006 in order to somewhat legitimize the coup. I'll be charitable and suppose it is due to misinformation and the effectiveness of the coup-makers propaganda. It just takes a quick search on wikipedia about 2006 general elections to spot those "inaccuracies" (euphemism!)
  7. Reconciliation or else Fri, 28/05/2010 - 13:49 Harrison George In order to facilitate the government’s policy of reconciliation to heal the divisions in Thai society after the recent conflict, a new Centre for the Reconciliation of All Parties has been established under the leadership of Deputy Prime Minister Suthep Thaugsuban. The CRAP objectives include the restoration of a normal situation throughout the Kingdom and the achievement of unity among the Thai people. The new Centre was introduced to the media at a press conference by Dr. Panitan Wattanayakorn, Deputy Secretary-General to the Prime Minister and Acting Government Spokesman, and Colonel Sansern Kaewkamnerd, Spokesman of the Royal Thai Army, both of whom have been appointed as CRAP mouthpieces. In response to a question about the composition of CRAP, Col Sansern said that it had been decided to transfer en masse the personnel of the Centre for the Resolution of the Emergency Situation, or CRES, to the new Centre, since the objectives were quite similar, the personnel were now experienced, internal coordination was good, and the 11th Infantry Headquarters had an exceptionally good canteen. When asked about the nature of CRAP operations, Dr. Panitan stressed that reconciliation was the government’s major policy objective. For reconciliation to succeed, he noted, the obstacles to reconciliation first had to be removed. It was for this reason that the authorities had to jail red sympathizers and bring charges of terrorism against former Prime Minister and fugitive from justice Thaksin Shinawatra. A foreign journalist asked if it was a CRAP strategy to jail people without charge or trial, noting that in most countries this would be regarded as a violation of human rights. A visibly annoyed Col Sansern responded that human rights in Thailand would undergo a CRAP revision to remove such misunderstandings. Detention without charge or trial was still necessary in order to move smoothly towards reconciliation. Therefore the Emergency Decree would remain in force indefinitely. The population should remain alert for periodic CRAP announcements telling them how they were to be reconciled and should strictly follow all CRAP instructions. In the meantime, CRAP would order the revocation of the visa and press credentials of the journalist who asked the question. ‘We cannot allow divisive and tendentious questions of this kind to disturb the nation’s steady progress to reconciliation’, said Col Sansern. While the government found it necessary to retain CRAP powers of arbitrary imprisonment, censorship and the curtailment of civil liberties, Dr Panitan expressed the hope that the natural desire of the Thai people for unity would make coercive measures unnecessary. To this end, the government would introduce a CRAP reform of the education system to ensure that schoolchildren, and by extension their parents, would receive only correct CRAP information that would foster reconciliation. This was, in fact, not really a new policy since many schools had already instituted measures to ban or obstruct the children of red shirt parents from attending school so that educational institutions could achieve unity and reconciliation. ‘Parents should realize that blocking reconciliation by holding dissenting views would have a severe impact on their children’s future,’ said Dr Panitan. Research by the Office of the Basic Education Commission revealed that children who were taught at home about human rights, equality before the law and other divisive propaganda suffered serious developmental problems when they were taught correct CRAP information at school. When asked what form these developmental problems took, Dr Panitan said that normally children at the very least suffered public ridicule but in particularly recalcitrant cases it was sometimes necessary to use physical methods. When a journalist commented that the government’s goal appeared to be to achieve reconciliation by eliminating all forms of dissent through CRAP, Dr Panitan agreed that this was the government’s new philosophy. ‘Our CRAP thinking will be applied not only to the political sphere, but also to economics. The NESDB has determined that the most effective way of eliminating poverty is by eliminating poor people, and the Ministry of the Environment and Natural Resources has found that environmental problems can be made to disappear simply by eliminating the natural environment,’ said Dr Panitan. When asked if this CRAP philosophy may create a problem for Thailand’s relations with the rest of the world, Col Sansern agreed. However, in order to solve this problem effectively, he said that Thailand was now working on a strategy for CRAP to destroy the rest of the world. It is obviously satiric, in the unlikely case you missed that
  8. This is classic big lie' date=' repeat it enough and often enough and it becomes a fact. That seems to be the basis for you entire analysis. The real fact is that The Asian Network for Free Elections (ANFREL) monitored the December 2007 election and though they made several recommendations, their report (look it up on their web site) in no way said the results was not democratic. Name me one Member of Parliament that was not elected then you can say Thailand is a democracy in name only. The fact is these same MP’s , plus the ones 29 constituency and 14 Party list MP’s elected to replace the banned executives of the PPP and Chart Thai, are still sitting in Parliament and elected Abhsist PM. TH[/quote'] TH, elections alone don't make a democracy, in the general acceptation of the term in the modern world. It's just the starting point. It is generally admitted that, beyond free elections and rights of political association, there are fundamental criteria that are required to qualify the level of democracy in a given country, among those, not exhaustively: - Free speech, - Free press, - separation of powers, - independent judiciary system, - equality before the law... and a lot more. For many various reasons, we all know that all those concepts are practically nonexistent in Thailand today.
  9. ^But it was all legal due process yadda, yadda!
  10. Actually it's just an Op-ed, not a WSJ staffer writing it. To my great surprise, it's actually a Chang Noi's piece. I don't think there is any question about Chang Noi's insight into the real Thailand. other link
  11. ^Not a random target. Owners are prominent financial supporters of Democrats and also own the Bangkok Post. Crown Property Bureau reported to have a share as well. Clearly a declaration of war...
  12. Isn't it ironic that ex-communist strategists joined forces with Seh Daeng to constitute the hardcore branch of the UDD? Let's call it National Reconciliation 55555!
  13. make a search for your own latest posts?
  14. ^Clearly, the large majority in this board are unconditional supporters of the shirtless movement.
  15. ^Interesting that a staunch American conservative is advocating a system of punishment that is akin to the most extreme Islamist republics or emirates.
  16. ^Well paranoia is a widespread disease in LOS these days. Sometimes, the extent of human stupidity just cracks me up: some reds came to the police to get in those buses with their bags full of looted goods. Never came to their minds that police would be searching the bags before boarding the buses, as a basic security procedure. Incredible.
  17. This is a point of view that I acknowledge to bear some logic but I strongly disagree with it for two reasons: - as a principle it is getting in the way of people's fundamental right to be informed; - practically, it has the potential of putting people in danger as they don't know what's going on and could go out to places they shouldn't. For the same reason, I find it very reprehensible that government officials repeatedly state that "the situation is under control" when extreme disorder and brutality was still going on.
  18. Governing is all about allocating taxpayer money. While in many cases, handouts are ineffective policies if not counter-productive, one could argue that practically ALL actions of any government in regards of state budget are handouts. Tax-cuts are handouts to whomever gets them.
  19. Baron, you seem to have pasted the wrong rink, but it seems to come form The Nation, quoting an unnamed PTP MP? Right...
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