sanukdee Posted January 20, 2003 Report Share Posted January 20, 2003 <<While our situation has already been worked out with her mother>> Not sure what you mean by this. Have you decided not to offer a dowry? I think you should. The ceremony and dowry offer mean so much to the new wife and Thai people. Something farangs don't understand. I just got married in December and gave 100,000 dowry. We also each bought 2 baht gold necklaces, but those were returned after the wedding. BTW the new wife is from Issan, thank God and Buddha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattaya127 Posted January 20, 2003 Report Share Posted January 20, 2003 We send enough to the family that they don't have any hardships ---------------------------- my situation would be close to yours. what is your opinion that having helped with generous sums a couple times, should pretty much equate to paying a sin sod in advance, sort of. I do not have the intention to marry in the village if that ever happens that i get married, this will be done in USA. How does that changes things? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJsushi Posted January 20, 2003 Report Share Posted January 20, 2003 So who determines if the chick is a virgin? Would a man wan to publicly admit his wife is not a virgin by paying the reduced dowry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 20, 2003 Report Share Posted January 20, 2003 HI P127. Glad to see you back with your normal posting passion. Yes, I think we share some points in common here. I know that you have invested serious $$ in her family's welfare. I think that a lot of it depends on an individuals ability to pay. While I am opposed to the sin sot as anything more than a cultural ritual, I am certainly not opposed to helping out my my inlaws, providing it's not going completely for lao khao or to the local casino. Fortunately my girl's family seems to have a strong work ethic, dad works regular although he has to be away from home to work his trade, and mom is a kineo workhorse who hopefully will continue to instill some of those traits in her daughter. Unfortunately they are poor so some help/face is always required. Her family was the victim of the all to oft used bank scam, where unsuspecting poor farmers are lent ridiculous sums of money if they will "only put up their land".Unable to make the payments, they are forced to borrow from the sharks (often friends of the bank) to keep from losing their land. After the factory where she was a supervisor closed, she took the "go dance" option and has managed to pay off all the sharks. It will be happy day for all concerned when she walks in the bank shortly and pays off those ursurers. So for us, we consider that we will have paid our sinsot, and will continue to help the family. No doubt each situation is unique and often dependant on fiscal resources. But we all pay in the end. It could make it easier by getting married outside Thailand as the family would not be subject to as much show face pressure. (but it will still be there) In the end the final decision should onlt be between your girl and you, hopefully the family will concur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soongmak Posted January 20, 2003 Report Share Posted January 20, 2003 I do not have the intention to marry in the village if that ever happens that i get married, this will be done in USA. P127, of all people, I'd figure you were definitely one to marry in the village (if you'd marry off course!) Why not combine the two? If my gf and me get married we will probably do the ceremony in her village and get the legal marriage done back in Farangland. She gets what she wants, and I get what I want. Is there any specific reason you wouldn't want to marry in thailand? Cheers, soongmak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SARGON Posted January 20, 2003 Report Share Posted January 20, 2003 One Baht in gold is currently 7100 baht, so this means 1,177,500 baht in total. Myself, I paid 200,000 baht and 2 baht of gold but without getting anything back. Well, if the house is in the greater Bangkok area it might be a good investment. Otherwise we have to hope for an even stronger euro! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harlequinbkk Posted January 20, 2003 Report Share Posted January 20, 2003 [color:"red"] @ 100,000 for an educated girl with a University degree, not older than 28 and still a virgin. @ 60,000 for an educated girl with a University degree, not older than 28 and no longer a virgin. [/color] So, this lady enjoys one night of passion and it cost her family 40,000 Baht! :( :( And some people on this board complain about paying 3,000 Baht for a ST. :: But seriously Kasansal, thanks for the price chart; it goes a long way in explaining how the dowry price is set. Harlequin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grabii Posted January 20, 2003 Report Share Posted January 20, 2003 Kasansal, Does this mean that no woman older than 28 years of age is entitled to a sinsot? Is it safe to presume that no woman previously married, registered marriage anyway, is entitled to a sinsot? Specifically, what about a 30 year-old educated woman with a university degeree, divorced, with 1 child. Regards, JEff Says kasansal: Since your wife-in-waiting is a highly educated and a reasonably attractive one (I have seen her with you at a restaurant, from far though ), a 100,000 price tag is probably very reasonable. The price for mine was 100,000, I paid 60,000 and she paid 40,000. The deal was that they kept the dowry money, which, in the end of the day is only cultural and expected, and that they helped me with purchasing a condo. I have checked with a Thai friend and these were the prices I got from him: @ 100,000 for an educated girl with a University degree, not older than 28 and still a virgin. @ 60,000 for an educated girl with a University degree, not older than 28 and no longer a virgin. @ 60,000 for an educated girl with 2 years college (Rajhabat or sumpin), not older than 28, and still a virgin. @ 50,000 for an educated girl with 2 years college (Rajhabat or sumpin), not older than 28 and no longer a virgin. @ 40,000 for a girl with three year high school, not older than 28 years, a virgin and from Isaan. @ 45,000 for a girl with three year high school, not older than 28 years, a virgin and NOT from Isaan. @ 20,000 for an uneducated virgin bargirl from Isaan. @ 30,000 and up for a girl FROM/NOT from Isaan with a fair complexion; the ones ending up as Mia nois (you won't believe how much some of these wealthy Thai-Chinese pay for something that in my view looks everything but attractive, but hey, TiT) @ FREE / Nada for the non-virgin bargirl! Prices do vary from family to family. Lately, the minister of #$#%%$### paid 4,999,9999, almost 5 Million for his bride! Also the beauty, the age, the education of the girl can play a big role in the "price tag" Ooops... dowry. Bud, I suggest you work something out with your wife-in-waiting BEFORE commiting yourself to marriage; lay out a few rules or something... Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilli13 Posted January 20, 2003 Report Share Posted January 20, 2003 nope no dowry to either :: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grabii Posted January 20, 2003 Report Share Posted January 20, 2003 Stick, I thought you were an English teacher? Says Stickman: ... The fiance an I .... Stick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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