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Are you sure The Cave is still there?

 

Everyone here should be thankful this is a Lep Year. Gives you an extra day before the new hours take effect.

 

I still think nothing much will change. If it does, I look forward to the TRT Party getting ousted.

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>>>>7. If the zoning goes through, expect the properties to skyrocket upwards around the zone. They expect the outer areas of Bangkok to die off in the next three years. More and more people will be attracted to living in areas around the zones.

8. If the zoning goes thru, they expect a minimum of two million people to be effected in the pocketbook and large protests as a result. “It will be a zoo” No matter how large the protest, don’t expect Thaksin to back down like other PM”s in the past. However keep in mind that the government term is ending and their will soon be a new election. On a sidenote heard of a large protest on Friday the 27th being planned. <<<

 

 

these two points are scary.

point 7:

the outer areas of bangkok contain huge areas for lower middle classes and lower classes who work in the large inustrial estates there. those people cannot afford to live, or work in the centre. those areas are getting increasingly violent already with serious gang problems.

shutting down everything at midnight down there will have massive effects in terms of more violence.

i am somewhat shocked at the complete disregard displayed by that official's comments towards those people. those areas dying off???? is the government finally able to magically shift all those industries into structurally poor provinces? i don't think so.

 

point 8:

what shall i say, it speaks for itself. scary.

 

 

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Oh twist away

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Time called on early bar closing

 

Published on Feb 28, 2004

 

 

Leave the bar at midnight? Just wait and see.

 

The government's plan to impose midnight-closing on nightspots outside designated zones from Monday might be postponed or even aborted because of a new draft regulation that maintains the current closing time.

 

The Interior Ministry yesterday sent the draft ministerial regulation for Cabinet review, possibly next week, said Vichien Chavalit, chief of the Department of Provincial Administration's Investigative and Legal Affairs Bureau.

 

The draft, which was written under a Cabinet resolution on February 10, sticks to the present closing time stipulated in the latest version of the Entertainment Act, which came into effect on January 13, Vichien said.

 

This requires that all entertainment venues licensed before January 13 close at 1am, nightclubs and bars must close at 2am, and lounges, tea houses and massage parlours at midnight.

 

He said that only entertainment venues licensed after January 13 and outside the designated zones would be subject to the midnight-closing time.

 

There are only three designated entertainment zones in Bangkok - Patpong, New Petchburi, and Ratchadaphisek.

 

Vichien denied that the draft was a policy reversal for the Ministry. It had pushed for early closing of nightspots as part of its social-order campaign, but the move has come under intense criticism from the night-entertainment industry and disgruntled club-goers.

 

The guideline for keeping the status quo on closing times came from Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra.

 

"The draft follows the Prime Minister's views," Vichien said.

 

Thaksin said on his weekly radio address on Valentine's Day that the midnight-closing time would not be imposed on businesses that were open before the new rule took effect.

 

The recent changes in opening hours and zoning policies has left the night-entertainment industry in limbo, with business owners unsure what the new rules would be and what effect they would have.

 

When contacted by The Nation, several high-ranking metropolitan police officers and owners of major entertainment venues yesterday declined to comment on the issue, saying that they needed to see the final decision from the Cabinet first.

 

A source in the Metropolitan Police Bureau said that the police would make sure that nightlife businesses strictly comply with the closing time stipulated in the new ministerial regulation.

 

Phermsak Lilakul

 

THE NATION

 

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An open and shut case?

 

Operating times for entertainment venues, subject to Cabinet approval:

 

 

Nightclubs and bars: 9pm-2am

 

Lounges and tea houses: 11am-2pm; 6pm-midnight

 

Massage parlours: 4pm-midnight

 

Pubs, discotheques, cafes, restaurants with live bands, and cabarets: 6pm-1am

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Good news .... possibly !

 

But the Nighclub/bar opening at 9pm is still a death nell for most of them.

 

and definitions of pub vs bar will need to be seen.

 

What it does do IMO is give the gov't a way out to leave things as they arewhile they 'review' this 'draft legislation' ..... hopefully for several months or years.

 

Thanks for the update. :applause:

 

Elvis ain't quite left the building... yet ::

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Elvis ain't quite left the building... yet

 

Maybe not, but IMO the damage has already been done. The fun has already been sucked out of Bangkok and much of the rest of Thailand -- whether they can open at 8 vs 9 or close at 12 vs 1 vs 2 or whatever is almost besides the point now.

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Unfortunately, I think so too. It's still a very good place in every respect, if you have the inclination and/or the money to back it up with.

 

But the crazy, party-on, what-ever-can-happen is gone. I would say that happened around late 2001 when they turned serious with the 2 o'clock closing time (but of course at THAT time, no no one took the new policy seriously...ugh, how wrong we were).

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