MaakSiDa Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 "Australian found dead in Bua Khao apartment Scene similar to 3 previous deaths The fourth of a series of bizarre deaths involving foreigners occurred last Wednesday when police were called to an apartment block in Soi Diana. In the fourth-floor apartment, Pattaya police found the body of Troy Anthony Hall, 39, from Sydney Australia at about 9.50 a.m. Hall?s body had a plastic bag around his head, sealed shut with tape and his hands were tied behind his back with shoelaces. Police removed the bag and laces to examine the man. Initial examinations revealed that he had been dead for about two to three hours and there were no signs of a struggle in the room or unusual markings on Hall?s body, which was naked from the waist up. A hotel housekeeper, Duangjai Wonginyu, who found the man, told police that she was carrying out her duties when she noticed the door slightly ajar. She peeked in to see the man dead on the bed and immediately reported the find to management. Initial police suspicions have not ruled out suicide as the cause of the Australian?s death due to financial difficulty, as hotel records showed that Hall was yet to pay his hotel bill. They are also not ruling out the possibility of the foreigner being murdered and will continue their investigations once results come back from the police forensic department in Bangkok. Hall is the fourth person to die in similar circumstances since October last year when a Dutch national was found in a Soi 8 hotel. One month later a French and a Danish national were discovered in the Kao Karat condo not far from the most recent find. In all cases suicide was more-or-less ruled as the cause, even though there are numerous similarities between the four deaths - each having plastic bags taped over the heads and, in two cases, hands hands being bound." (Pattaya Mail online 14/05/04) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckwoww Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 So let's see how this works. Does one tape the bag on before tying ones own hands together or after? :: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 that's a bit of a misleading thread title, as the article you posted clearly stated that suicide was ruled out. anyhow, there were several cases similar to those in several countries, where the endresult was autoerotic asphyxiation. http://www.cwu.edu/~jenkinsa/Autoerotic_Asphyxia_Page.html http://www.newsfilter.org/articles/ultimate_orgasm.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 >>>>>>Hall?s body had a plastic bag around his head, sealed shut with tape and his hands were tied behind his back with shoelaces.<<<<< <<<<<Police have not ruled out suicide>>>> Hahahahahahahha....A true classic! HT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racha Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 not misleading the article says Initial police suspicions have not ruled out suicide, doubt this guy was a wanking autoerotic either with his hands tied behind his back its not an easy task Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoiledCowboy Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 Houdini was a mere amateur compared with these suicide antics! The investigators might as well also view the the recent video of the American hostage beheading and declare this as a definite proven case of suicide as well! :: :: :: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 two exact quotes from the article: >>>>Initial police suspicions have not ruled out suicide as the cause of the Australian’s death due to financial difficulty, as hotel records showed that Hall was yet to pay his hotel bill. They are also not ruling out the possibility of the foreigner being murdered and will continue their investigations once results come back from the police forensic department in Bangkok.<<<< >>>>In all cases suicide was more-or-less ruled as the cause, <<<<." i think that "initially" means that at first the did not rule out suicide, while in the end they did. anyhow, in a proper investigation one does not rule out anything until proven otherwise. and i can tell you from experience that murderscenes and suicide scenes are not that easy to read, there are lots of forensic tests to be performed, and even though thailand has dr. pornthip, not everybody in the overworked forensic department is as qualified as her. also many policemen are not that highly qualified, and do destroy a lot of the evidence during the standard procedures by accident. i am just getting a bit tired here of all the conclusions by internet detectives who have never in their live seen a corpse, a murder scene, or a suicide scene other than in some hollywood flick, and especially not the ones they appear to know everyting about. it is also not really possible to base one's conclusion on a scene described about in a very brief article of a newspaper. you say for example that it might be difficult to be an "autoerotic wanker" with his hands tied behind his back. well, did the article describe anywhere in which fashion his hands were tied behind his back? does one need to have his fingers on his dick to have a erotic fantasy fullfilled. there are lots of weird things around, and if you look into some of the practises of the BDSM scene than you will know that often part of the fantasy is NOT coming to an orgasm. also, the article states that there were 4 similar suicide/murder scenes. does that mean that they are necessarily related? some may be murders, and some may be "autoerotic wankers", not related at all. weirder things have happened. or there is some maniac massmurderer around, and the police is not willing to spill out for their own tactical reasons too much. we will not know, especially as all the speculation is only based on one brief article of a newspaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racha Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 did the article describe anywhere in which fashion his hands were tied behind his back? Yes it did it said Quote ?? In the fourth-floor apartment, Pattaya police found the body of Troy Anthony Hall, 39, from Sydney Australia at about 9.50 a.m. Hall?s body had a plastic bag around his head, sealed shut with tape and his hands were tied behind his back with shoelaces.?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 OK, that was the one, the other ones: >>>even though there are numerous similarities between the four deaths - each having plastic bags taped over the heads and, in two cases, hands hands being bound."<<< not really that much said about it. anyhow, it was said that suicide was ruled out now at the end of the article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunsanuk Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 Hi, "anyhow, it was said that suicide was ruled out now at the end of the article." Not really, it said: "In all cases suicide was more-or-less ruled as the cause" Which means that in all the other cases they considered the cause to be suicide. And I do not think it takes a genius to figure out that there is no fucking way somebody is able to commit suicide this way. Sanuk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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