Central Scrutinizer Posted January 22, 2005 Report Share Posted January 22, 2005 nkped, Yes, bumping it is. That is why it is probably being watched closely by KS and the mods. It's a touchy and sensitive subject, but as adults we should be able to have a discussion on it, no? There is no promoting this stuff here, but shouldn't we know where to avoid and where to go? Cent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper Posted January 22, 2005 Report Share Posted January 22, 2005 I visited Martinis a year ago and I chatted with a very young Viet girl who was working daytime in k11 and was brought to Martinis every evening. I also asked about HIV out of curiosity and the girl smiled and said "yes hab many girls HIV in my house (k11)". I really got bad vibes about the place and the punters inside. Cambodia sanuk is definitely not for everybody's taste. H.O.D., Walkabout and Sharkey's seemed a bit nicer places altough in Walkabout I was offered some kind of pills by the girls. Needless to say I didn't take'em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redbaron Posted January 22, 2005 Report Share Posted January 22, 2005 There is no promoting this stuff here, but shouldn't we know where to avoid and where to go? A list of places to avoid wuldn't be advisable. This could be seen as 'promoting' places who employ underage/indentured girls. Just my take on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redbaron Posted January 22, 2005 Report Share Posted January 22, 2005 the girl smiled and said "yes hab many girls HIV in my house (k11)". Reminds me of a docu I saw some years back, on the whole P4P industry in Asia. One girl, who admitted to allowing customers to go bareback for a few extra $$ said, "I'd prefer to die of aids in a few years than to starve to death next week." Given the choice, I'd probably do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregchambers Posted January 23, 2005 Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 I went to PP a year or so ago on a visa run and went to most of the places mentioned over a week. Impression I got, you simply won't get any nice Khmer girls going anywhere near any of these place, whereas in Bkk there is always a small window, grey area, of opportunity of finding genuine new girls, though perhaps ever diminishing. The reputed HIV rate of the mostly ex-brothel gals in the scene, with and without mamasan, too frightening to indulge (with a tenpercent chance of the condom breaking). Also, total language barrier problem, girls simply not educated at all it would seem. And no chance of getting beyond the bar scene in a short period of time, either. Oddly, PP seemed quite pleasant along the river front and even the moto drivers were friendly. Contrast that, with say a shithole like Angeles City full of thieves, pimps and scum and the never ending arrival of cherry gals in the bar scene... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
changnoi Posted January 23, 2005 Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 Oddly, PP seemed quite pleasant along the river front and even the moto drivers were friendly. Yes that is odd, especially when you consider how wonderful Thailand is and what a shit-hole Cambodia always will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lusty Posted January 23, 2005 Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 Some of the nightime P4P venues are so dark you can't see the girl you talking to let alone estimate her age.Why is this?Thanx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamui Posted January 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 Dark places? Non of the places I mentioned are dark (it would be quite difficult to play pool in the dark or to dance... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Board Mod Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 There is no promoting this stuff here, but shouldn't we know where to avoid and where to go? I think knowing where to go is enough. Im not so certain that alot of people would know if they were having with a sex worker who had repressive work obligations, but it should be pretty obvious if someone is under age. If in doubt just ask for an ID. On the other hand if we have a list of places not to go that would probably be of more use to some one who is trying to locate underage sex workers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.. Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 Moderator8 said:I think knowing where to go is enough. Im not so certain that alot of people would know if they were having with a sex worker who had repressive work obligations, but it should be pretty obvious if someone is under age. If in doubt just ask for an ID. On the other hand if we have a list of places not to go that would probably be of more use to some one who is trying to locate underage sex workers. It is a circular argument methinks. No saying the name of a place then is tantamount to saying that this is where they are. This leads to situation that is worse than pointing them out IMHO as at least pointing them out will alieve any doubt that those are the bad places. Kinda like feeding the elephants on the streets of BKK. If you do feed them, you are encouraging the mahouts to bring them into the city. If you do not feed them, then they starve because there is a) no work for them and no social program to support them. You can't win. Cheers, SD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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