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This is a double edged question. Just wondering are any of you guys,or any guys you know fucking non bar girls. basically girls who aren t whores?

 

I know you could argue that you end up paying for all women the world over in some way. What I mean though is do you get on with any girls who you don t explicitly hand over money as in a contractual exchange.the way you would with a gogo,freelancer girl etc.

 

Girls who have jobs,better off and that.

 

I mean you still can take them out and buy diner,drinks etc but you dont have to pay them in cash.

 

I haven t spent too much time on the p4p scene as I was in a realtionship so I stayed away. Eventually i strayed and I ended that relationship not cos of the p4p but other reasons.

 

So I guess i ve fucked about 15 other thai girls. I found alot of the girls in Gulivers at nana,and the others at the Ko San Gullivers. I would say about 8 of the 15 involved no money.

 

However I dont like Ko San but it seems easy to find a non p4p girl,in my experience.

 

Now I am returning to lice in bangkok on Wednesday and I can t wait.

 

Now my question is:

 

DO YOU THINK THERE IS ANY SUCH THING AS A FREE LUNCH IN BANGKOK(REGARDS WOMEN)?

 

DO ANY OF YOU GUYS HERE LOOK AROUND FOR NON P4P GIRLS?

 

AND IF SO WHERE WOULD YOU SAY IS A GOOD PLACE TO FIND SOME STUDENT/CAREER/OFFICE GIRLS? WHAT BARS?

 

Something tells me that Thong Lor may be good,bed club,siam square, some of the clubs like Sin,q-Bar etc.

 

Also I am just turned 25 today,so I am young and not a bad looking guy. Maybe this makes a difference.

 

One more thing:

 

IS THERE NO STUDENT BARS TO HANG OUT NEAR THE UNIs?

 

cHEERS CHRIS.

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"...DO YOU THINK THERE IS ANY SUCH THING AS A FREE LUNCH IN BANGKOK(REGARDS WOMEN)?..."

 

HELL NO! NOT ANYWHERE!! Especially if women are involved!

 

DO ANY OF YOU GUYS HERE LOOK AROUND FOR NON P4P GIRLS?

 

nope, not me, not anymore, have one on callthat I date, but it's all the same game one way or another...

 

AND IF SO WHERE WOULD YOU SAY IS A GOOD PLACE TO FIND SOME STUDENT/CAREER/OFFICE GIRLS? WHAT BARS?

 

The age old question here...never seen a bar where Thai women went to meet Farangs...unless they were hookers...

 

Something tells me that Thong Lor may be good,bed club,siam square, some of the clubs like Sin,q-Bar etc.

 

Ever been to Thailand? Sorry, that was shit headed of me. Ever sit next to a Thai girl on the train, and have her move away so her friends won't think she is with you? Same same in a lot of places. You can meet girls in the usual venues where you might meet them at home...but it is a crap shoot in Thailand, and may have an alterior motive attatched, be very very VERY Leary of hair salons.

 

Also I am just turned 25 today,so I am young and not a bad looking guy. Maybe this makes a difference.

 

It does to me sailor, give me a call!

 

One more thing:

 

IS THERE NO STUDENT BARS TO HANG OUT NEAR THE UNIs?

 

Probably...but they go there with their friends, and probably not there to meet farangs... For a decent effort, try chatting with girls on line, maybe girls who work in offices...students etc...and then make arrangements to hook up...this might be your best bet...and don't expect anything to happen right away, if she is a good girl, and this is what you are after...if she jumps in bed with you right away, she is probably onto something/looking for something...yeah I know we all heard the rumors about guys who hook up with a girl on the internet, and bang her because they are so studdly, and she just wants to bang a farang...(now watch 10 guys tell us it happenedto them) and I say this is bullshit, just hookers who didn't get paid, or girls looking for something out of it...of course people will tell me I am wrong.

 

You can find a nice girl, it can happen. But it will take time. And make sure you really want a nice girl, no sense fucking her up if all you want is a quick fuck...

 

cHEERS CHRIS.

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OH. You always have a quick reply and pretty balanced answer.

 

as you say it is possible to meet a nice girl,but you have to be lucky.

 

I am not into getting a serious relationship at the minute but if the right girl comes along then why not.

 

The internet is an interesting place.

 

I think you are right in some ways about good thai girls not wanting to meet farang. However I think this is changing especially having spent sometime observing the younger generation coming through. The thai girls in their early 20's etc.

 

They certainly seem to me to be breaking free of cultural values. They have ambition,they have a bit of a western interest,to travel,music,they seem to know what they want in regard to men. I suppose you could sum it up by saying they are more independent.

 

Then again OH,anybody can purport to be anything. I guess you have to meet them and get to know them as a friend,to know exactly who they are.

 

You said that a lot of thai girls would nt want to be seen with a farang. I ve never knwingly experience this for myslef yet,but I am sure its true as I ve heard it before.

 

ON WHAT GROUNDS DO THESE TYE OF THAI GIRLS NOT WANT TO MEET WITH A FARANGOR BE SEEN WITH ONE?

 

Are we farangs perceived by these thai girls as scum? What is the belief they hold about farangs that makes as undesirable?

Are we seen as a threat to their hi-so values?

 

I mean surely these "better educated" thai girls must have independent thought powers to reason things for themsleves.

 

EVEN IF A FARANG IS LOADED,WILL HE STILL BE UNDESIRABLE TO A GOOD THAI GIRL OR HI SO TYPE?

 

I would postulate that if you go to farang orientated places,but still regular bars,not gogos then you will most likely meet thai girls who are most of the time hookers. Howver I would say that this is not always the case as I dont believe you can divide human behaviour into well defined groups. Theres always breaks away from the status quo.

 

I mean what about a nice thai girl who has no desires or need to be a hooker. With the mass influence of the west on the east through the media,surely its happens that some GTGor hi so ones sit at home and watch western tv or read magazines with good looking farangs in them. They bound to get curious about us. Girls like sex as much as us in the end. I reckon theres girls who just want to try a farang .

 

I also reckon that they must be curious about our way of life. I mean I am curious about Thai girls and women in general. Thats what creates and causes the search.

 

Everyone who reads the relationship sectionsand nightlife sectionson this board are curious to know about TGs in someway. YOu would nt read them if you didnt want to know something.

 

So I think its fine to assume that girls/Tgs get curious about farangs and may go out just to meet a farang guy for a bit of fun. maybe we stil buy them drinks and shit but we don t negiotate a contract to ironed out in the bedroom.

 

I ve had a few thai girls who fucked for nothing,and asked for nothing. To me Thailand is a dream place for a philosopher/anthropolgist etc as it does throw a lot of conundrums at you.

 

I suppose the best mind set to approach thailand with is to be aware of whats goin on. But also not to get into a mindset where we make assumptions all the time about the way things are. By doing this I think you can shut yourself off from the genuine chances that may come your way,cos you refused to break a pattern of thoughtthat may not necessarily be true the way it used to be.

 

FUCK I WILL GO NOW AS I HATE IT WHEN I START TO FEEL AS IF I AM LECTURING PEOPLE AND PREACHING.

 

CHRIS.

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I think you are right in some ways about good thai girls not wanting to meet farang. However I think this is changing especially having spent sometime observing the younger generation coming through. The thai girls in their early 20's etc.

 

They certainly seem to me to be breaking free of cultural values. They have ambition,they have a bit of a western interest,to travel,music,they seem to know what they want in regard to men. I suppose you could sum it up by saying they are more independent.

 

There was a very interesting article about this in the Bangkok Post magazine last Friday - not sure if it's accessible online.

 

junglesoup said:

Are we farangs perceived by these thai girls as scum? What is the belief they hold about farangs that makes as undesirable?

Are we seen as a threat to their hi-so values?

 

I would say that, more than any other factor, it would be about how they are perceived by others - as P4P girls.

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What I mean though is do you get on with any girls who you don t explicitly hand over money as in a contractual exchange.the way you would with a gogo,freelancer girl etc.

 

Girls who have jobs,better off and that.

 

I was with a couple of girls in Eden Club last week and I didn't have to pay them any money. My bar bill seemed to be about B3500 too much though!

 

Incidentally, when you talk about jobs and 'better off', I was chatting with one of them about her income. Given that all (40+) the girls in Eden are basically working flat out (no pun intended but I'll leave it in anyway) from opening until closing, I think she can be regarded as typical. She earns B20k 'up' PLUS tips, per week, so around B100k per month! How many of the 'better off' hi-so girls can even dream of that?!?

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This topic has come up a few times before. If you're truly interested in meeting non p4p girls then you need to steer clear of the p4p areas, simple really.

 

Bangkok is a big place. There's loads of girls willing to go out with you, khun farang, and they are quite easy to approach. Chances are you won't be fucking at the end of the night, or the second night for that matter, but that's the way it is when you want a "good girl." Some guys cant deal with not getting laid every night so they stick to the sure things in the bars, which is the best thing to do if all you're interested in is whoring around.

 

Meet some new people, keep in contact and build up a network. I've always got thai girl friends inviting me out whenever I'm back in the country. You meet their friends, their friends friends, and so on. In fact next month I'll be staying in a apartment right off the chitlom bts station thats owned by the mother of a girl I met about a year ago. Told her I was gonna be in town and she hooked it up. If you're willing to put in the work, the opportunities are out there.

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Liquidflux has a very good point.

 

If you live here, things become easier as well, at work (the easiest place in the world all over the world to find a partner) but also in hotels, restaurants, hospitals etc etc etc there are loads of girls willing to start a relationship with a foreigner.

Point is tho, you need to get to know them and they're not interested in a quick fuck. In general they want a relationship.

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liquidflux said:This topic has come up a few times before. If you're truly interested in meeting non p4p girls then you need to steer clear of the p4p areas, simple really.

 

Bangkok is a big place. There's loads of girls willing to go out with you, khun farang, and they are quite easy to approach.........Meet some new people, keep in contact and build up a network. I've always got thai girl friends inviting me out whenever I'm back in the country. You meet their friends, their friends friends, and so on.

All very easy to say but you don't give any specific examples. You quote friends of friends but where did you meet the original friend ? If not at work then maybe you could assist the poster with some ideas of where he could find some non P4P girls, outside of their work environment.

 

Its all to easy to say in the shops, restaurants, hotels, McDonalds etc. but some would be intimidated by that.

 

How about some places where you meet them after work, when they are socialising ?

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All very easy to say but you don't give any specific examples. You quote friends of friends but where did you meet the original friend ? If not at work then maybe you could assist the poster with some ideas of where he could find some non P4P girls, outside of their work environment.

 

Its all to easy to say in the shops, restaurants, hotels, McDonalds etc. but some would be intimidated by that.

 

How about some places where you meet them after work, when they are socialising ?

 

I don't work in Thailand, nor do I live there.

 

Places like shops, restaruants, hotels and McDonalds are where I've met 99% of the girls I know, and I did so by simply walking up to them and striking up a conversation. A simple "do you speak english?" is usually enough to get the ball rolling. Even better if you learn to say it in Thai! If someone were intimidated by doing that, how can they expect to meet anyone?

 

Most of the girls just like to grab something to eat after work and maybe catch a movie or something. Not much different than anywhere else in the world. The hardcore partying is usually left for the weekends. Khaosan, Thonglor, Ratchada soi 4 and RCA seem to be the hot spots at the moment. Plenty of normal girls partying out there who wouldn't mind making some new farang friends. But once again, if you haven't got the balls to walk up and introduce yourself, you're not gonna get anywhere.

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liquidflux said:

Meet some new people, keep in contact and build up a network. I've always got thai girl friends inviting me out whenever I'm back in the country. You meet their friends, their friends friends, and so on.

 

Absolutely, my Thai G/F is back in Farangland (long story), however she has arranged for me to be chaparoned with some of her friends....they bought along their friends and one in particular has taken a shine to me and theres defintely potential chemistry there....needless to say, I'm not naive enough to think she wants ME rather than my wallet, but it certainly can happen....and this girl has a senior job in a hotel.

So far I've met around 5 more girls than I would of done had I been here with the missus... ::

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