candyfloss Posted May 30, 2006 Report Share Posted May 30, 2006 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/... ''I was told in basic training that if I'm given an illegal or immoral order, it is my duty to disobey it. I feel that invading and occupying Iraq is an illegal and immoral thing to do.'' Flashermac ? [shortened URL description - KS] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck6660 Posted May 30, 2006 Report Share Posted May 30, 2006 IMO they sound like a bunch of cowards who belong in Canada. Good riddance...perhaps they can do community service by "GI'ing" the latrines at Guantanamo! Hinzman is a double "volunteer," first he volunteered for the Army, then he volunteered to serve in the 82d Airborne Division. Who would think the "82d Airborne" would have to go to war?? Another coward who wanted the $$ and educational benefits but not the hazards. Boo-Hoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elef Posted May 30, 2006 Report Share Posted May 30, 2006 I agree, I understand better if some guys serving in the National Guards are deserting, but the right is to disobey an illegal order not to desert. The iraqi operation is decided by the president and accepted by the congress and the UN so it's not a reason to desert just because a soldier thinks he doesn't like the grounds for the war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BelgianBoy Posted May 30, 2006 Report Share Posted May 30, 2006 elef said:and the UN when did that happen ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elef Posted May 30, 2006 Report Share Posted May 30, 2006 BB, don't remember directly but even if the miltitary action was premature it was accepted by the security council in advance I think. Of course they couldn't do much as 2 permanent members acted, but the protests were very weak - more that the reasons for the operation were not correct than the operation itself. But it's history now the allies won the war but are now losing the peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teddy Posted May 30, 2006 Report Share Posted May 30, 2006 elef said:BB, don't remember directly but even if the miltitary action was premature it was accepted by the security council in advance I think. Of course they couldn't do much as 2 permanent members acted, but the protests were very weak - more that the reasons for the operation were not correct than the operation itself. But it's history now the allies won the war but are now losing the peace. Has some twat been re-writing history again :: The UN didn't accept going to war and how can you say the allies won the war because the war is not over yet and there never was a 'peace'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teddy Posted May 30, 2006 Report Share Posted May 30, 2006 chuck6660 said:IMO they sound like a bunch of cowards who belong in Canada. Good riddance...perhaps they can do community service by "GI'ing" the latrines at Guantanamo! Hinzman is a double "volunteer," first he volunteered for the Army, then he volunteered to serve in the 82d Airborne Division. Who would think the "82d Airborne" would have to go to war?? Another coward who wanted the $$ and educational benefits but not the hazards. Boo-Hoo You're not covered in tattoo's by any chance are you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BelgianBoy Posted May 30, 2006 Report Share Posted May 30, 2006 teddy said: elef said:BB, don't remember directly but even if the miltitary action was premature it was accepted by the security council in advance I think. Of course they couldn't do much as 2 permanent members acted, but the protests were very weak - more that the reasons for the operation were not correct than the operation itself. But it's history now the allies won the war but are now losing the peace. Has some twat been re-writing history again :: The UN didn't accept going to war and how can you say the allies won the war because the war is not over yet and there never was a 'peace'. Thanks for writing exactly my thoughts. BB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bust Posted May 30, 2006 Report Share Posted May 30, 2006 chuck6660 said: Another coward who wanted the $$ and educational benefits but not the hazards. Or maybe just a decent education considering how governments these days would rather spend the $$$$$$ on illegal invasions than educating their own country. Some guys who sign up prove to be much smarter than your average soldier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elef Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 What I remember the security council accepted that a military action was a possible if Iraq not cooperated. In any case the UN accepted the fait accompli and decided around the administration of occupied Iraq. Won the war - so says GWB and Pentagon - as the regular army is defeated and you dominate the whole country IMI the war is over - if you don't accept that you don't accept either that WWII is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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