Fidel Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 A Dutch court gets just a bit too progressive on an issue of child safety CAMERON AINSWORTH-VINCZE The Netherlands is known for its liberal laws on everything from drugs and prostitution to euthanasia. But a recent court decision has proved a bit shocking even for the Dutch. The Hague District Court refused to ban a group of self-confessed pedophiles from forming a political party, ruling that a ban violates their right to freedom of expression. Launched in May, the Brotherly Love, Freedom and Diversity (PNVD) party seeks to lower the age of sexual consent from 16 to 12, and advocates legalizing child pornography, hard drugs and bestiality. Although it's unlikely the party will get the estimated 60,000 votes it needs to win a seat in November's parliamentary election, comments from its members have sparked outrage. "A ban just makes children curious," says Ad van den Berg, one of PNVD's founders, who was convicted of molesting an 11-year-old boy in 1987. "We want to make pedophilia the subject of discussion." But Ireen van Engelen, of the Solace Foundation, an anti-pedophile group which brought forth the case, believes their motives are different. "They make out as if they want more rights for children. But their position that children should be allowed sexual contact from age 12 is of course just in their own interest," she told a local paper. Solace has no plans to appeal the ruling, saying it doubts the party will attract any support. Full Article Wikipedia Article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drogon Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 not a recent news..... Holland is known for a great liberty of speech although they seem to face some problems with that at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lazyphil Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 sick disgusting bastards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topcatta Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 Yes, damned Dutchies are sick disgusting bastards. I think so too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lazyphil Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 No TC, I didn't call Dutch sick i was calling the select group, not exactly sure where that came from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lembeh Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 >A Dutch court gets just a bit too progressive on an issue of child safety Hmm. OK, I will take the contrary view and this, and agree with the Dutch courts. Surely this is the essence of democracy? People disagree with a law, and have formed a political party to get that law changed. Whatever we (personally) feel about the law, once we start denying the political process to those who wish to change the law, we are on the begining of a VERY slippery slope. We (or the Dutch) *also* have the political process to deny them the ability to change that particular law - through the ballot process. This is surely what we all (to a greater or lesser extent) believe in? -j- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topcatta Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 Relaaaaxxxx, just joking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topcatta Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 Exactly Josh. In Western culture adults having sex with underaged is called pedophilia. IN other cultures children are married out to adults. In the last case they are not called 'sick'. 'Pedophiles' are still ppl. Maybe they got something to say! Ppl tend to jump on them as the real bad boys but I doubt that is always the case. We make mistakes cause our upbringing sometimes sucks and we dont know any better. Maybe we jump to high to cover up our own shit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lazyphil Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 hey why dont you start a rape party or mother f**kers party, poo eating party (thats an after school club activity for some segments of dutch society maybe already?)..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topcatta Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 No need. For sure the poopy parties already exists. The dresscode is diapers. Yes we are a wonderful world... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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