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Toronto Canada.

Have you thought about the Escort Agencies. These girls are usually not full time BGs, 'working' only weekends for some extra cash and have a 'real job' during the week.

Call a place and ask for a girl ST and if you like her ask her if she'd like to date you for the week after her normal working hours and agree a rate with her, not the Agency.

Just an idea that seems it might answer your worries.

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Originally posted by phiketpete:

Keep it to one page and I for one would be very intetrested to read it

[ July 28, 2001: Message edited by: phiketpete ]

OK, you asked for it!

1. There's absolutely nothing embarrassing or stupid about TC's questions. Flyonzewall has forgotten, in his maturity and infinite wisdom, that not everyone is an expert on the Thai sanuk scene, and not everyone has the time or inclination to "research" everything before asking a question.

2. I sincerely doubt if there are many publications (as flyonzewall suggests) that discuss "having sex with a non-BG in LOS." Thus, if you're a newbie, where else do you go to inquire about such things? I think this forum is just about the best place to get an answer, and, obviously, TC is getting some pretty decent advice from caring and concerned members, don't you think?

3. Rather than use his vast experience and knowledge of LOS to provide positive advice and counsel to a newbie, and possibly use the forum to redirect TC's thought process (which is probably flawed), flyonzewall chooses to ridicule, scorn, and turn-off EVERYONE with his abrasive nature. This is absolutely unnecessary. It's OK to present an opinion, but is it appropriate to tell a newbie that he's presented a "stupid" question? I don't think so.

4. This is an "information" forum. TC was seeking information. He was courteous, apparently sincere, and brave enough to ask. His only deficiency is ignorance, and we all suffer from that at some point in our lives.

Phiketpete, I want to encourage dialogue on this wonderful web site, not squash it! I think most folks really enjoy the time they spend reading the posts. Thus, abrasive commentary like flyonzewall's does nothing to encourage the lurkers out there who probably have great questions and/or information to present. It only serves to inhibit posts and questions.

t'wannabe

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Originally posted by teacherwannabe:

[QB]OK, you asked for it!

1. There's absolutely nothing embarrassing or stupid about TC's questions.

Sorry, but there was.

Flyonzewall has forgotten, in his maturity and infinite wisdom, that not everyone is an expert on the Thai sanuk scene, and not everyone has the time or inclination to "research" everything before asking a question.

Actually, I rather think that he hasn't. If a person has the time or the inclination to go to a Thai nightlife discussion board then they are more than capable of researching a little before jumping straight in with a question and expecting to find the crock of gold at the end of the rainbow i.e. the legendary good Thai girl that puts out.

2. I sincerely doubt if there are many publications (as flyonzewall suggests) that discuss "having sex with a non-BG in LOS."

I'm pretty sure that I've seen this very subject discussed on numerous discussion boards over the past couple of years.

 

Thus, if you're a newbie, where else do you go to inquire about such things? I think this forum is just about the best place to get an answer, and, obviously, TC is getting some pretty decent advice from caring and concerned members, don't you think?

Agreed.

 

3. Rather than use his vast experience and knowledge of LOS to provide positive advice and counsel to a newbie, and possibly use the forum to redirect TC's thought process (which is probably flawed),

 

It's debateable whether TC's thought process is flawed. He's asking a fairly simplistic question which doesn't indicate flawed thought processes.

 

flyonzewall chooses to ridicule, scorn, and turn-off EVERYONE with his abrasive nature. This is absolutely unnecessary.

Nope, he doesn't turn off ME. I find it quite refreshing to see a good barney on the board from time to time. For instance the thread on the Cambodian Sanuk scene would have been hardly as interesting without his input.

It's OK to present an opinion, but is it appropriate to tell a newbie that he's presented a "stupid" question? I don't think so.

No, it is. He's not calling TC stupid just saying that the question was stupid. Possibly it could have been worded in an alternative manner eg your question was a little premature and why don't you read the board for a bit etc.

 

4. This is an "information" forum. TC was seeking information. He was courteous, apparently sincere, and brave enough to ask. His only deficiency is ignorance, and we all suffer from that at some point in our lives.

We are all indeed ignorant at times. As Bismark said, something along the lines of "they say a wise man learns by his mistakes, but a truly wise man learns from the mistakes of others." If FOZW didn't make it patently clear that the original query was a little silly then perhaps TC may have gone to LOS and asked normal non-scene Thai ladies if he could get laid. Simply due to the fact that people were too polite or scared to point out the error of his ways. Yes, there are ways and means to do things but FOZW was straightforward and succinct.

 

Phiketpete, I want to encourage dialogue on this wonderful web site, not squash it! I think most folks really enjoy the time they spend reading the posts.

Yes indeed.

Thus, abrasive commentary like flyonzewall's does nothing to encourage the lurkers out there who probably have great questions and/or information to present. It only serves to inhibit posts and questions.

Disagree. His commentary isn't that nasty. Plus if it is perceived as a little abrasive by some lurkers then if anything surely that should encourage them to make their point known?

Just my thoughts. But what do I know, you could show me a picture of my arse and one of my elbow and I still wouldn't know the difference.

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[ July 28, 2001: Message edited by: Sukhumvit ]

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themayorofpattaya,

Can you give us some examples of experiences that you or your acquaintances have had with escort agencies. The idea of an agency in LOS sounded too ridiculous for me to give it a second thought. Have I missed out on something? I am very skeptical.

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Originally posted by teacherwannabe:

Reply to flyonzewall:

You said:

"There are so many books and websites about Thailand, why don't you get yourself informed before asking embarrassingly stupid questions?"

I could write several pages on the reasons this response is inappropriate,

Think about it.

 

Keep it to one page and I for one would be very intetrested to read it

[ July 28, 2001: Message edited by: phiketpete ]

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Ahhh...

excuse me but the topic was "looking to meet non BG for sex". Not "looking to discuss the merits of various posts with respect to the subject of looking to meet non BG for sex".

Get OVER it and get on with it!

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Originally posted by Alfalfa:

Ahhh...

excuse me but the topic was "looking to meet non BG for sex". Not "looking to discuss the merits of various posts with respect to the subject of looking to meet non BG for sex".

Get OVER it and get on with it!

that's called thread hijack...

one topic starts getting very boring, somebody brings up something more interesting, and everybody jumps on it.

or do you wanna keep on discussing about non BG for sex?

on another board starting to dicuss about farts always worked...

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Originally posted by toronto canada:

Hi i was wondering where i can meet non BG for short relationship (one week). I have heard that there are university girls and sales girs (low income) are looking to meet americans to rean a little extra. Thnaks in advance.

You seem to have been jumped on but i can relate this experience within a 3 hr period which would have yielded 2 non- BG opportunities if i'd actually thought of it at the time- i didn't since i always just get drunk and await the magic moment in thailand when somehow something then will always "click":

now sober, i'm on my way to the skytrain for the overhead trip from nana to the bus terminal.

Opportunity no.1

just outside the ticket booth of the skytrain , i walk into Watsons chemist boutique, n buy hair conditioner, face cream, soap, toothpaste, - walking away to the skytrain ticket booth, one (of among 3 Watsons sales girls) chases after me with my receipt!- "sir!, sir!" she's cute, gives me a big smile and hangs on for that split moment, to make me realise on the bus there had been more in collecting a receipt.

Opportunity no.2

same bus, 2 odd hrs later, a gaggle of schoolgirls get on the bus, and one takes the empty seat next to me on the back seat- pubescent- 15?- she talks to her friend, but i notice every so often she looks across my bow- i'm by the window, but i could sense by the angle of her head that she wasn't looking out the window- occasionally, she giggles with her friend- i alight at the junction where you collect the taxibike for the final part of the journey into town- and as the bus draws away, our eyes meet, and we waive each other goodbye.

How many such happenchances would become something more meaningful with a simple deflection of the straight line of normal life?

jOa

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TC.

Although not a BKK resident and a relative Newbie, I have been visting BKK every month for the last 3 years.

So if I can add my humble two bahts worth of comment, it is this.

Stick to the BGs until you understand more about the country, the culture and TGs in general. Less chance for either party to get hurt emotionally and best chance for you to get what you want....fun in the sack.

I know that some of the other guys have been a bit harsh on their comments, but it is understandable. Far too many farangs come to LOS and based on their BG experiences, somehow get the idea that all TGs are available in one form or another. I have seen how some farangs treat my GF and it annoys the shit out of me sometimes, as she is a sweet girl from a very strict/morale family background.

The opposite is often true of course. In that many TGs would not go near a farang, given their reputation based on the 'sex tourist' stereotype.

After having had my training wheels on for the last couple of years, I ventured out this year into the non BG scene. I now have a wonderful relationship with a very sweet girl. But....I could not have handled it emotionally in my early days of visting LOS. This is due to the total 200% commitment that many TGs give their boyfriends. It is a big responsibility to take on.

As one poster commented many months ago, on the subject of Thai Virgins. If you sleep with a Virgin, you better be ready to marry her! In my limited experience, TGs do not enter a BF/GF relationship where sex is involved...lightly.

I know the topic was not virgins, but I was illustrating the attitude of many 'nice' Thai girls.

Not that I have tried it...but it is clear that there is a large body of 'non-professional' eg non BG girls, that might be willing to go with a guy whilst on holiday. But how you would find the right one, understand each others expectations etc etc I think would be beyond a relative newcomer to LOS. Myself included.

Stick to the BGs for now mate. You will get everything you want there and learn a lot about TGs into the bargain :-))

Just take your time in choosing. An hour or two with your prospective sack partner having a laugh and a drink will tell you if the chemistry is there for a memorable night :-)

Good luck. :-)

Sid

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Originally posted by jimofarabia:

How many such happenchances would become something more meaningful with a simple deflection of the straight line of normal life?

jOa[/QB]

How many such happenchances ended in suicide for the girl involved, because some western guy just thinks about sex while she thinks about marriage?

You want a relationship with a non bargirl, you better know the country, the language and the people well enough to see if that might not be a case of different expectations. That knowledge does not come from hanging out in bars, it comes from living here and having everyday dealings with people not connected to the scene.

Don't just interpret the possibility of free sex into a smile or a giggle.

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