Mekong Posted December 24, 2010 Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 A woman in a hot air balloon realized she was lost. Snip I must have heard that one a thousand times but I never tire of hearing it, As an Engineer who has had run ins with beuracratic management on more than one occasion it is actually very close to the truth and that is what makes it so funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunsanuk Posted December 25, 2010 Report Share Posted December 25, 2010 Hi, Fully agree. No offense to any marketing people on this board, but it has been my experience that almost all of them are totally full of shit. Always making promises to clients that the techies then get to keep and of course become responsible for. Sanuk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coss Posted December 25, 2010 Report Share Posted December 25, 2010 I agree whole heartedly, I've been stung many a time by the promises of Marketing Witches. And I too mean no offense to any marketing people on this board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nervous God Posted December 26, 2010 Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 Me 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pom Michael Posted December 26, 2010 Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 But - if we let you engineers sell.... Customer: "I need to buy this program for our company." Engineer: "Ok, after customization and testing, it will be ready in about 18 months" Customer: "Oh, sorry then - we need it now" You need a combination of a good sales/marketing person and even better engineers/software developers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redbaron Posted December 26, 2010 Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 on marketing... the ex was big on marketing, reasonably high up in a decent sized casino... her mantra was to promise the customer (punter) everything and anything he/she wanted. Whether or not it was possible was neither here nor there. Promise the world to keep em coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunsanuk Posted December 26, 2010 Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 Hi, I can easily turn that around Customer: "I need to buy this program for our company, but I also need it to do xxx, yyy and zzz. Does it do that?" Sales person (without asking anyone and without knowing anything): "Sure, no problem. Just sign here." Engineer to sales person: "It doesn't do that and adding it will take 3 months." Sales person to engineer: "Well, the customer has already signed so just do it." "You need a combination of a good sales/marketing person and even better engineers/software developers." No argument there. The biggest problem I see is that neither of the groups really know what the other does. However, it is *inevitably* the engineers that get the shit *after* the sales person has already gotten his commission for making a sales based on promises he himself doesn't have to keep. "Whether or not it was possible was neither here nor there." Bingo! And who gets to fulfill those promises or get shat upon if they are not met? The sales person who made them? Yeah, right! Sanuk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Munchmaster Posted December 26, 2010 Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coss Posted December 26, 2010 Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 Yes I've always wondered why sales/marketing people are inviolable, and they lie on their CVs. If they are expert in MS Word and Powerpoint, why do I have to make their Word templates and Powerpoint presentations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Munchmaster Posted December 26, 2010 Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 Eh, Coss, KS, PM, et all, this is a fecking jokes thread, can we keep it that way please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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