junglesoup Posted July 24, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 Hi kamui, thanks alot man. To be honest its not been the best birthday ever, but it was nice of you to notice. Cheers man... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabbish Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 (edited) yeah get a second test! there are many cases of false positives. facts: 1. the so called HIV drugs are DNA terminators. They will cause adverse effects on your body and in the worst case, even kill you. 2. Many people live healthy lives (10+ years) with HIV without taking any medication. 3. There´s is no proof that HIV is the cause of AIDS. you must be going through hell right now. i probably can´t even imagine. but really, before you start accepting that you have HIV, you should really make sure that you indeed have it. there are probably thousands of people out there, who on their first test recieved a false positive, walking around thinking that they´ve got HIV, when they don´t. Edited July 25, 2007 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjon045 Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 1. the so called HIV drugs are DNA terminators. They will cause adverse effects on your body and in the worst case, even kill you. You will die anyway if you don't take the drugs. 2. Many people live healthy lives (10+ years) with HIV without taking any medication. How many is "Many"? The majority of people die far faster if they don't take the drugs. Most street people in thailand die in under 10 years. Of course if you are over 60 or even over 50 it may not be worth taking the meds. 3. There´s is no proof that HIV is the cause of AIDS. .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunsanuk Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 Hi, Bjon045, are you going out of your way to make these pessimistic comments? Sanuk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabbish Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 I'm sorry Bjon045 but you're wrong. Google it yourself. The so called HIV medicine hasn't been able to show any health benifits to the patient whatsoever. To the contrary actually. Don't trust your doctor. Look it up and make up your own mind. I hope the second test comes up negative. I strongly recommend you to take one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MooNoi Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 The so called HIV medicine hasn't been able to show any health benifits to the patient whatsoever. Sorry... but I've read, and re-read, that sentence about a dozen times and it still doesn't make sense to me. Would be interesting to see what all the people taking anti-retrovirals who would have died had they not been taking them have to say about that statement. Care to elaborate? I don't understand what you mean or how you came to that conclusion. Also, maybe show a little empathy and try and think about what Junglesoup is going through right now eh? Reading negative things really isn't going to help the poor guy's state-of-mind. He needs support. Not ill-informed statements like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabbish Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 Well presume i'm right and presume that he does have HIV. Then if he starts taking the medications he might, ironically enough, die of Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome due to the damage the drug does to the immune system (not to mention the damage it does to the entire body). I just want to warn him. If what these people are saying is true then junglesoup can go on and live a healthy life without having to worry. If i were him, knowing that, would make the situation a lot more bearable. I'm sorry if i have offended him, it was never my intention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.. Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 Oh man...just wait until Josh_Ingu sees how this thread has turned! Cheers, SD -- ducking for cover, but watching in anticipation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MooNoi Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 due to the damage the drug does to the immune system (not to mention the damage it does to the entire body). Sorry... but what "drug"? Got a name? Got any info to back-up your crazy theory? Are you a doctor or HIV specialist? As far as I was aware there are many anti-retroviral HIV drugs out there being used by people to keep them alive. So which anti-HIV "drug" damages the immune system? Correct me if I'm wrong but are you saying that HIV positive people shouldn't take their prescribed medicine and they'd have more chance of survival? Hmmm... maybe! I guess that's why survival rates in the western world where people have access to meds are incredibly high and in the third world where people don't have access to meds so easily they're incredibly low... yep! Your point makes total sense.. NOT! If you want to post some wild and outlandish theory you may have, that's fine, but this probably isn't the thread to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonderlust Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 Don't you think it's better to take these quack theories to another thread? Junglesoup made a very honest, brave and personal post so I think this is the thread to offer support not to argue about medical quackery. He needs to follow the advice of his doctors with whom he'll be able to work out his unique individual needs. The last thing he needs is to be distracted by quack keyboard "doctors". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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