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Warning to everyone, HIV test came back positive...

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You happened to be sober at that moment? Or maybe they didn't realise you're Irish?

 

:D

 

 

p.s. I've heard that if an expat tests positive for HIV here, he'll be denied a visa extension. No idea if that's true, and even if it were there'd probably be a way around it.

 

 

 

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Same here. They gave me a form stating that I was free of elephantisis, leprosy, alcoholism (dunno how they determined that one) and psychosis.

 

Nice to have.

I had the same form "issued" at Khao San Road :grin:

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Thai immigration used to require certification that applicants for long term visas be free of HIV infection, but several years ago (sometime around 2001), they withdrew the requirement, stating that it would not have any significant affect on the country's overall HIV problem.

 

It would be nice if other countries could become more realistic in this sense.

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>Oh man...just wait until Josh_Ingu sees how this thread has turned!

 

Been out of the country for the last month and not followed the board. Deeply saddened to read the thread. I see KS has squashed the "funny theories" aspect of the thread, so I will be able to leave that alone (for once).

 

To junglesoup

I am really sorry to read of this, and greatly applaud your honesty and bravery in posting. As was said earlier, possibly the most important thread on the whole board to be honest. It would be nice to see this thread made as a "sticky", possibly at the top of the health forum.

 

As someone one who has had *countless* arguements on this and other boards with the nay sayers (i.e there is no such thing as AIDS or HIV , the drugs make you sick) I get depressed that people *still* disbelive the facts despite the mountains of evidence. Personal stories like yours help to re-inforce the fact that it *is* out there.

 

I know of four people personally who have been diagnosed with HIV/AIDS. Two thais and two farangs. Both the Thais are dead, and both the farangs doing well. No real surprises there.

 

In UK, you will be in good hands. If you are not comfortable with your present doc (the schmuk with the mixed up diagnoses), get a referral to another doctor. There are many very, very good docs there.

 

You said you had type E if I recall, which I am not sure is definitive (as I am not sure if the first test would pick that up), you may want to make sure of that specifically, as it could have some bearing on your treatment regime.

 

As to the meds, the best single piece of evidence I ever saw was a plot of mortality rates in America of people infected with HIV. Upto the late 80's (hard pushed to recall the exact date) it was an almost flat line - pretty much everyone who got it died within a few years. After the introduction of the retrovirals, the death rate *plummeted* right down - which is a long way around saying that the anti-retrovirals and protease inhibitors *work*. Lots of drug combinations are being tested and improved, and they are working on good, single dose formulations (i.e. the days of 18 different pills per day at precise times are long gone).

 

On a side note, this is not necessarily the situation here in Thailand. Most of the drugs people take here are low quality copies (generics) and they are associated with a *high* risk of drug resistance. So on your question of treatment here versus there, bear in mind that the original drugs are expensive here (and may not be available in the future - for reason gone into on other threads).

 

As was pointed out elsewhere, non-compliance with the drug regime (not taking your meds) is a major cause of what fatalities do occur, as well as other factors (drink etc was noted). Maybe worth checking out what (if any) alcohol is allowed on your med regime. Keeping yourself as "healthy" as possible (I know that sounds silly, but you know what I mean) also seems to play a major role in determining how well people do.

 

Also take control over your disease - read up (as you are clearly doing), listen to your docs and *think* about what they are telling you. They are not perfect, so the more you know about your disease the better off you are.

 

I wish you all the very best. Although difficult, try to keep a positive frame of mind - as has been noted its no longer an immediate death sentence, and, properly managed can be no more of an problem than other chronic diseases such as HepB or diabetes.

 

Good luck.

josh

 

 

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wow man heart sinking!!

my last trip to thailand i wore a condom 4 times out of 14 girls,so stupid but i didnt care at the time or think of the problems it could cause!!

i got a scare near the end of my holiday when my friend got flu simptoms and i had sore balls which turns out to be the way i was sleeping!!

i got tested when i got home and had to get tested for going to oz,i was shitting it!!

thanks for the warning,ive learnt my lesson!!

you have a good view on life and you will pick your self up soon thats a great quality!!

has this put you off thailand?it would be good still to met up for a beer if you are there near xmas!!

take care of yourself and my way of looking at things when sometime happens to me is'theres always someone who gets it worse'!!

good luck chris

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Josh-

Any comments regarding this E type strain and its means of transmission? The idea that one can get it from contact through the skin even with a condom is uhm ...how to express it???...extraordinarily frightening..

Thanks-

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Hi Chris,

 

You sound like a good guy, and have a great attitude.

 

My father has been living with HIV for over 10 years. He is 61 this year and has more life and energy in him than men half his age..

 

Take care of yourself ok? But by the sound of things - you will be doing just that.

 

A bit off topic - but does anyone know how long it takes for HIV to 'take hold?'

 

I had an accident (or 2) in Bangkok with my Thai gf that was a massage girl (ie sex worker). When I came to Taiwan I had to get a blood test 2 months later. If I had HIV, would it have showed up in that test?

 

Thankfully it was negative, but after reading the bravery and attitude of this guy and the info in this thread, I dont think it would be such a devestating thing to find out anymore...

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Thankfully it was negative, but after reading the bravery and attitude of this guy and the info in this thread, I dont think it would be such a devestating thing to find out anymore...

 

unfortunately this ia reported to be the attitude in much of the gay community in the USA,

Ohh its not so bad, they have drugs for that now ,

 

Well thats not really true , yes there are drugs which slow down your decline , but you still have it , can still infect others,

and for some people the drug treatrment does not work and they are gone quick after being infected

 

Play safe

 

OC

 

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