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I will be avoiding that area for some time though.

At least we know the Tourist Police can't be trusted.

Ummm....didn't someone say that about 40 posts ago.

Mate don't know you but to put it bluntly I think your a bit of a dill.

 

Quiet obvious from the beginning this was personal and you were out for revenge. I still don't think you've been up front with what really happened to you.

 

Be smart and count your losses. The only thing you are going to get from your little crusade is trouble.

 

 

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My standard reply to the airport taxi guys, gem scammers etc etc is 'fuck off'. A loud, audible, fuck off. I almost enjoy seeing them aproach me at the airport, just so i can tel them to fuck off.

 

Fuck'em. I hate the scummy bastards.

 

The Kings's Palace scammers get me. Right in front of the staff, soldiers and security guards, at the gate to what is the symbolic palace to the King Of Thailand, these guys will declare the place closed in order to rip them off. The staff, guards etc.... like, 20 yards away, couldnt give a fuck. Is that not a blatent disrespect to the King? Would the entrance fee that these guys deny some tourists from spending not have gone into the upkeep of the palace?

 

Is that not stealing from the King or something?

 

If i was to remain seated at the cinema during the national anthem, i would draw a much more negative response than these cheating cunts recieve at the gates to the Kings very own gaff!

 

By the way, as a foot note.... All the talk of 'you will end up in a klong'. You know... the whole 'Pattaya High Dive' thing. Does anyone actualy know anyone that this has happened to? I mean, a real story of a ferang insulting/disrespecting a Thai and winding up dead? These warnings get thrown aroung way to casualy in my humble opinion. I wouldnt fuck with a Thai - of course not - but lets be realistic, we ferang ex-pats to seem to issue these warnings quite readily, dont we? I always get the impression that many people tend to walk on egg shels around Thais, in terms of confrontation.

 

 

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In Kanchanaburi, yes. Shot by a drunk policeman. Unfortunatley, the Brit guy didnt know how fucking evil the Thais can be with a beer in them if you say or do the wrong thing. There are always exeptions to the rule.

 

Not every guy in LOS is going to shoot you, because you told him to stop chatting your mrs up (as was the case above). This could easily happen in England.... but we dont speak of 'ending up in a river if you fuck with that English guy' at any given chance.

 

If a Thai guy chats my GF up in an aggresive way for example - and this is a good example - i am going to politley ask him to leave it alone. if he still dosent drop it, ill tell him to bugger off. I dont expect for a second to get shot. There are ways in which you can stand up to a Thai without causing them to loose face.

 

Im only using that as it is a good example. Many long termers may say that this is a bad idea as 'you will end up in a klong'.

 

I may be wrong. Im only stating an opinion here and either way it dosent matter, as i never find myself in confrontational situations with Thais thankfully. Im just saying, that point of view gets rather cliched sometimes, imho. You know... 'dont do that mate, you will end up burried under the new footbridge'. I just get tired of the stereotype. What are they, ninjas with attitude?

 

How many of us (hands up) ACTUALY KNOW examples of this. First hand examples where they know a guy who ended up in a klong over something trivial? I would bet not many, if any, if none.

 

The guy outside central World would not have 'ended up under a klong'. In all probabilty he would have had his camera smashed and taken a good kicking. Of course, i do not know this for certain. Just offering my opinion.

 

 

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Yeh, possibly. I dont know. I guess Thailand is Thailand and things can happen. Maybe it could have gone down that road. Either way, im sure if i was him my arse would have been squeaking. big time! Not a situation i would like to be in.

 

I guess though my general point is.... you know; does this whole notion of 'being thrown in the klong' not get over exagerated sometimes?'

 

There was a ferang guy from Oz just 4 weeks ago - and this is 100% truthfull - who set up a jet ski business on Chaweng Beach, Koh Samui. This is a well established business model of course, which has always been a Thai market. He was warned by fellow ferang not to venture into it. 'Bollocks, i dont believe all this rubbish about Thai jet ski mafia. They are ONLY Thai kids!' was his frequent answer. The Thai's gave him a chance and warned him on the first, second and third day. He didnt listen.

 

The next week, they found his motoribike on its side early in the morning, on the mountain roads in betweek Chaweng and lamai, on the edge of the jungle. He, however, was not with it. He hasnt been seen since.

 

Now... that would be a prime example of when to listen to the old chestnut 'dont do that, or they will throw you in a klong'. He was rather daft and kinda asked for it. On the other hand, there are times when you here this kinda warning and you just think 'dont be silly. We dont live in a bloody mafia movie here'.

 

Well, at least i do. Just my opinion. Im not an expert on Thai ways.

 

 

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A favourite trick in Chiang Mai was cutting brake cables. I know quite a few farang got hurt or killed in traffic accidents there after falling out with locals. Maybe things are different now.

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You guys swapping war stories about farangs getting killed by mafia wouldn't actually happen to have any news story links to support them would you? Right, thought not.

 

Fact is the guy has won decisively. His pictures continue to stay on the net for the world to see and the scammers, every single one of them, is fully aware of it. Despite knowing exactly who he is, what he is doing, and having the perfect opportunity confronting him, nothing happened. They were not able to punish him one bit. No smashed camera, no kicking, nothing. The police even got a good laugh as they didn't do anything to him and no crime was committed. Chalk one up for the farang.

 

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Fact is the guy has won decisively. His pictures continue to stay on the net for the world to see and the scammers, every single one of them, is fully aware of it. Despite knowing exactly who he is, what he is doing, and having the perfect opportunity confronting him, nothing happened. They were not able to punish him one bit. No smashed camera, no kicking, nothing. The police even got a good laugh as they didn't do anything to him and no crime was committed

 

Yet!

I admire his bottle, but he's put himself at considerable personal risk in a battle he can't win. LOS is corrupt from the top down, and that isn't going to change anytime soon, he's already lost the ability to walk in the Erawan area with safety, for what? the scam goes on, it doesn't look much like a win to me.

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"You guys swapping war stories about farangs getting killed by mafia wouldn't actually happen to have any news story links to support them would you? Right, thought not."

 

I just googled 'Thai mafia web forum' in the hope that a few Thai mafia may be posting 'where to purchase the best pick axe' but nothing came up.

 

Seriously though, i agree with you. Thats my whole point; this whole notion of ferangs burried alive courtesy of the Thai Mafia bores me. You here it too much. It does happen occasionaly of course, of that im sure, but i just wish it was not banded around so easily. We do not live in Sicily for fucks sake.

 

I had a typical beer bar conversation with a bloke from London in Samui last week. He was banging on about the jungle/mountains and how it is, in his opinion, full of dead ferang who fucked with the Thais. Sure, it happens from time to time i would guess but not anywhere close to the levels that some people go on about.

 

This guy at Erewin shrine is a prime example. He openly photographed a few dozen Thai con merchants and even dedicated a fucking website to them. Whilst his actions are somewhat bold and not reccomended; is he burried in the jungle or sleeping in a klong? No.

 

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