LT/ST rate verdict?

[shygye]

Yep, A verbal contract isn't worth the paper it is written on.

[typedef222]

I don't believe in the "spoiling the market" category. Pay whatever you want, there are enough people in the market that an individual action won't matter.

 

However, based on my carefully kept statistics, amount you pay (amount negotiated upfront) is NOT AT ALL related to the quality of service. However, it is related to looks.

 

Guideline I follow (as a resident) is:

Bangkok: 1000-1400 ST / 1000-2000 LT

Pattaya: 500-1200 ST / 800-1700 LT

 

There are few exceptions, but I don't mind tipping a girl if she was nice (on top of base rate if negotiated, but within above range).

 

On the topic of negotiating upfront, I think it reduces the chance of a tantrum. I don't think it spoils the GFE too much, with girls that intend to be nice... I always do let them know there's a potential for a tip.

[hoksipgau]

Just in my experience, this based upon visiting LOS since 2000.

 

Bangkok:

Nana-Rainbow go-go's- 2000ST, 4000LT

Soi Cowboy:

Tilac 1500ST, 3000LT

Baccarrac 2000ST, 4000LT

 

Pattaya:

Beer Bars 500ST, 1000LT(but I usually pay 2000LT, if the girl is really pretty and gives me GFE)

Go-gos: Superbaby, 1500St, 2500LT (but I usually tip good if they are really pretty and give me GFE)

 

But all in all I've paid anywhere from 500ST to 2000ST and 1000LT to 4000LT. I'ts still pretty cheap compared to other places in Asia, like Singapore, Hong Kong, Phlipiines,,we won't even discuss Japan or Korea.

 

I am a businessman, who travels throughout asia. I want a really pretty girl with a good attitude, and makes sweet love.......

 

 

[ChristianTroy]

Why do we hire their services? In order to have sex with them. That's the "fun".

 

Hmm I guess I am the lucky one and I usually have a great time even when negotiating upfront. First off when you negotiate before you avoid the akward morning goodbye.

 

I am quoting you both and give a universal answer.

Some people might consider Sex as a round up of a good night and not he only thing fun.

 

Sex and Sex doesn't equal Sex :-)

A girl can jump into 100 positions and still be bad. Sex is not only a mechanical thing, you can have fun with a good performer and you can be technically satisfied, you don't achieve real satisfaction when you and the girl do not emotionally connect. (not love) By emotionally connect i mean both feel comforted by each other, feel safe with each other and both give each other the feeling that they really want to have sex with each other.

I know old guys, young guys, pretty guys and ugly guys and all of them found that little selection of girls where these things are possible. Some people pay for the illusion and some for the pussy. I buy the illusion and for that matter it isn't possible to negotiate the price upfront, money can't be a topic in this "act".

 

I have been poking girls from 16 to 32 and thought it was grand, was big mouthing about my heroic sex life with porn models.... Then I met this one girl (Farang) I loved to death and it was the first time I had real sex in my life. Taking this experience into considerations and compare it with the way too many girls I had before I have to conclude that many (not all) men wouldn't recognice a good sex partner when they have it.

Not sure if that makes any sense to the most not sure if one is taking offense from that, no offense intended.

 

[WorldFun]

ct,

 

I believe I'm buying the illusion as well, but sometimes it does happen that we agreed the price upfront or even paid upfront as per standard modus in many MPs etc.

 

Once however I got confused like hell when I met this Asian chick who claimed sex can only be 'good' when there's a 'connection' & I believe she could tell 'upfront' if that connection was there or not & although flirting happily there just was no such connection for us & she used that as an excuse not to have sex - well until that one night...

 

Anyway even if one feels it was a perfect 'illusion' or 'connection' it may feel quite different on the 'other side', but often it's some kind of mutual effect I'd say

 

So without sidetracking further I'll just add that those nice 'illusions' probably are more likely to be frequent in the younger age...

[ChristianTroy]

WF, agreed, agreed and agreed

 

nothing beats Love inr a relationship and 2 partners that both know what they are doing and are physically right for each other. If you'd have better sex in a ONS as with your life partner you most likely won't end up too happy with her.

 

Probably younger people have a better shot on the perfect illusion as the girls might have a higher physical attraction towards young guys and on the other hand an older man can impress with his experience, something the young fella doesn't have. Young men are very popular with freelancers and young unexperienced bar girls, more experienced bar girls are more practical and rather choose a more calm session with an experienced man (if they can choose)

 

If the experience is mutual or not I rather don't want to think about, I am already too concious about everything I would not want to know if it was not. That is why it is called an illusion, can Criss Angel levitate? No he can't but it looks damn impressive http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKeSsh61XdY

 

Pure sex with a random brat bores me to death, I wanna see something about this girl i haven't seen before or something that seperates her from the mass. If she'd quote a price, everything I have seen would go away because she is acting not different as the mass. Except of this 1 time I was never been quoted a price, it was settled in the morning and none of the girls ever checked what I had put in her purse, they received the information (money in the purse) and left with a smile. She wouldn't check her purse out of respect and politeness and I like to believe that not making money a topic is returning the respect and as long the payment is approriate I like to believe it makes her feel a little better about her job. (i could be brutally wrong here)

[Ryder]

I hear you Troy, I've been with some of the younger BGs before and, for the most part the older girls mid to late 20s and 30s outshine the 'sex machine's who are younger.