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Not in most cases, no. Remember, during that time, we just opened the flood gates, and anyone who could get here could stake a claim to land and citizenship. Some entire regiments of the Calvary were made up of immigrants, mostly Irish. So no, in many, maybe most cases, the people were not yet "Americans."

 

Also remember, prior to the American revolution, we were not a country. So the genocide went on from the time of the first Settlers until that time, what almost 200 years? Just kinda pisses me off when Europeans say "You Americans" killed the Indians, forgetting that it was largely their ancestors who came here to do it.

 

Had there not been the rapid influx of Euros, there would not have been the need for this expansion.

 

now lest go to another issue before we go back to the original point that was raised in another thread. That is slavery. The Dutch brought the first load of slaves here in I believe 1618. More followed, brought by Spain, Portugal, France etc...yes, what is now the USA did benifit from it, but does the involvement of those countries in the slave trade back then justify the enslavement of people today? No, it does not. However a few here made the claim that because "Americans" had killed the Natives here, we shouldn't bitch about China invading Tibet and oppressing the people there...which is utter bullshit.

 

Fact is, the United states has had so many different countries play a part in our history, it is wrong for a lot of those countries to start pointing fingers at us for what went on back then...especially since they and theirs were a part of it.

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The first really AMERICAN president was Martin van Buren, who was inaugurated in 1837. He was the first prez who was born an American citizen; his seven predecessors were all born British. Van Buren was also the first president not of British ancestry and the first whose mother tongue was not English. He grew up speaking Dutch and always had a bit of an accent.

 

 

 

 

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