Hugh_Hoy Posted July 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 Looks like Obama's attempt to create a tsunami health care bill is fading fast...as is his popularity in the polls (and significantly). He's had this idea that everything needs to be done NOW. Like put the country billions of dollars in debt for something he doesn't even know about. His latest admission came last night in a televised news conference. He was unable to say that he knew what was in the bills being fashioned by the Democrats...only that he wants a bill NOW...in the next week or two. And the stupid cunt Pelosi is lock-step with him. Well, all indications are that he's gonna have to wait a while before he can raise taxes and spend money the government doesn't have. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090723/ap_on_go_co/us_health_care_overhaul HH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavanami Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 Prez. O's popularity rating is below GWB's after six months in office. Maybe the US people are waking up to see the reality of this fraudster http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/presidential-approval-tracker.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shygye Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 Did you even read the article? And though the younger Bush and Bill Clinton had significantly lower ratings at 180 days  Clinton had sunk to 41% approval  both won second terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh_Hoy Posted July 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 Clinton got a lucky boost from the dot.com explosion and Monica hadn't given him a blow job in the Oval Office yet. And he hadn't bombed an aspirin factory yet. HH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngfarang Posted July 29, 2009 Report Share Posted July 29, 2009 Clinton got a lucky boost from the dot.com explosion and Monica hadn't given him a blow job in the Oval Office yet. And he hadn't bombed an aspirin factory yet. HH What was the National Debt when Clinton left office...? I believe it was 6 Trillion Dollars. Just imagine if the dot.com bubble didn't bail Clinton's ass out of hot water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkoktraveler Posted July 29, 2009 Report Share Posted July 29, 2009 Total public debt was less then 6 trillion dollars. That is what the people owe, not the governments. Today, the people owe 7.3 trillion, the governments owe 4.3 trillion making a total debt of 11.6 trillion. Sourse: Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngfarang Posted July 30, 2009 Report Share Posted July 30, 2009 Total public debt was less then 6 trillion dollars. That is what the people owe, not the governments. Today, the people owe 7.3 trillion, the governments owe 4.3 trillion making a total debt of 11.6 trillion. Sourse: Link Having said that, why would we spend trillions of dollars on healthcare when we are in debt as a whole of 11 trillion dollars? Doesn't make sense too me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rchapstick Posted July 30, 2009 Report Share Posted July 30, 2009 Total public debt was less then 6 trillion dollars. That is what the people owe' date=' not the governments. Today, the people owe 7.3 trillion, the governments owe 4.3 trillion making a total debt of 11.6 trillion. Sourse: Link Having said that, why would we spend trillions of dollars on healthcare when we are in debt as a whole of 11 trillion dollars? Doesn't make sense too me. Just curious YF, but did you ask the same question about the funding for the Iraq war? And with GWB cutting the top tax rates at the same time? I thought not ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted July 30, 2009 Report Share Posted July 30, 2009 Reparations By Way Of Health Care Reform Still believe in post-racial politics? Read the health care bill. It's affirmative action on steroids, deciding everything from who becomes a doctor to who gets treatment on the basis of skin color. President Obama is on the record as being officially opposed to reparations for slavery. But as with other issues, you have to sift through his eloquent rhetoric and go beyond the teleprompter to get at what he really means. His opposition to reparations is based on the fact they don't go far enough. In a 2004 questionnaire, he told the NAACP, "I fear that reparations would be an excuse for some to say, 'We've paid our debt,' and to avoid the much harder work." Never mind there are those who thought we apologized at Gettysburg and that an African-American president is a recognition of the hard work that has been done. At a press conference with minority journalists last fall, candidate Obama was pressed for more detail on his reparations position. He said he was more interested in taking action to help people who were just getting by. Because many of them are minorities, he said, that would help the same people who would benefit from reparations. "If we have a program, for example, of universal health care, that will disproportionally affect people of color, because they are disproportionally uninsured," Obama said. This may be a goal of Obama's health care plan: the redress of health care disparities on the basis of race and the punishment of those believed to be responsible, such as greedy doctors who perform unnecessary tests and procedures and greedy insurance and drug companies lusting for profits. In his health care plan published during the campaign, it was written that Obama and Biden will "challenge the medical system to eliminate inequities in health care by requiring hospitals and health plans to collect, analyze and report health care quality for disparity populations and holding them accountable for any differences found." House Speaker Nancy Pelosi repeated this when she addressed the NAACP this month, saying: "It is a moral issue for our country to reduce health disparities, whether in diabetes, asthma, heart disease, cancer and HIV/AIDS." The racial grievance industry under health care reform could be calling the shots in the emergency room, the operating room, the medical room, even medical school. As Terence Jeffrey, editor at large of Human Events puts it, not only our wealth, but also our health will be redistributed. Under the Democrats' plans, if a medical school wants to receive contracts and grants from the federal government, it must operate under a quota system and be able to prove it. On Page 909, the House bill states: "In awarding grants or contracts under this section, the (HHS) secretary shall give preference to entities that have a demonstrated record of the following: ... training individuals who are from underrepresented minority groups or disadvantaged backgrounds." Jeffrey points out that in the name of eliminating "disparities" in health care, under the House version of the bill, payment to providers under the public option becomes a sort of Pavlovian reward and punishment system. "The secretary," says Section 224, "shall design and implement the payment mechanisms and policies under this section in a manner that  (1) seeks to ... reduce health disparities (including racial, ethnic and other disparities)." Everyone deserves the best health care and doctors. That will not happen under a plan that emphasizes affirmative action and leads to rationing. As the case of the New Haven, Conn., firefighters shows, reverse discrimination is wrong and dangerous. Whether it's that firefighter coming up the ladder, or the brain surgeon about to remove that tumor in your head, everybody wants that person to be the best regardless of race or ethnicity  and not admitted by quotas and promoted by political correctness. That's what all Americans are owed. Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkoktraveler Posted July 30, 2009 Report Share Posted July 30, 2009 Total public debt was less then 6 trillion dollars. That is what the people owe' date=' not the governments. Today, the people owe 7.3 trillion, the governments owe 4.3 trillion making a total debt of 11.6 trillion. Sourse: Link Having said that, why would we spend trillions of dollars on healthcare when we are in debt as a whole of 11 trillion dollars? Doesn't make sense too me. What kind of medical insurance do you have? If you should have an accident, do you have insurance to cover it? And if you don't have the insurance, how would the bill get paid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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