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Piggy's Pattaya Ponderings - Part II


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Days Three to Six (I think!)

 

Or – could be entitled: “A guide for newbie’s – how to completely shit in your own nest and get away with it! (I think!)†:rolleyes:

 

To be honest, the last 3 nights haven’t been anywhere near as incident or controversial as normal for me, so please don’t be too disappointed if you are yawning by the end of this posting. :sleeping:

 

So... where were we. Ah yes – the overdose of Kamagra. I got 2 of the massage girls from across the soi to come up to my room to see what they could do. Luckily it was the 2 cutest ones – my regular, Miss K and Miss M who is also well-equipped and experience to handle such matters. They certainly did everything in their power to deflate the situation, and got 2 shots out of me in an hour and a half. (It was nice watching them play with each other for 20 minutes or so in between sessions – very nice!) 1000 baht to each of them and they were happy. So was I!

Normal transmission having been resumed I read my book and dozed on-and-off for the rest of the afternoon before grabbing a bite to eat. :bow:

 

I went back to “The Mint†about 9pm and took my usual seat. No sign of Miss J. After the tearing up of the check bin with the BF on it by Miss J and throwing it in my face I was a little apprehensive, but everyone seemed to greet me normally. Miss J’s best friend came up and said “hi†and that Miss J hadn’t been seen since and has mobile phone switched off.

 

So, it was business as usual with a few LD’s and some chat. Her other friend came up and we had a verbal threesome for a while. Both girls said that what Miss J did was “ting tong†(silly) and she should have asked me first to BF her before deciding to do it herself – even if she did pay for it out of her own pocket. The manager threw a couple of free beers my way as usual (nice touch and nice of a bar to appreciate its good customers) so I figured no one had any ill-feeling towards me. :thumbup:

 

After a couple of hours there was no sign of Miss J and it was obvious she wasn’t going to turn up. Decided to look at a couple of other venues and moseyed down to Cosy’s a gogo – one of the new places in Walking Street Road (sponsored by Samsung – the street, not the bar!) This place was simply god-awful. It could easily be re-named “Where Old Buffalos Go To Die A Gogo†– there were about 2 girls under 30 in there from what I could see. Dingy atmosphere and quite a lot of pressure for LD’s as soon as I walked in the door – don’t waste your time. :thumbdown:

 

Necked a quick beer in here and then off to Living Dolls 1. I’m not into shows, so didn’t want to go to Living Dolls Showcase, number 1 would do just fine. Nice selection of ladies in here. If you like girls who look young then this would be a good place for you. Not many stretch marks either – unlike Cosy’s. Took about 5 minutes to be served – maybe they didn’t see me come in, but it’s strange they don’t notice someone sitting there without a drink for so long! No biggie, though.

 

Headed up to Hot Girls A-Go-Go, not because I particularly like the place, but I had a sort-of relationship with a previous Mamasan here (not your usual Mamasan type either – she was 28, hot body, dressed VERY classy and almost looked like a luuk kreung). When I lived in LOS previously she and I somehow hooked up and spent a bit of time together, but she quit the scene and went nannying in Qatar and I lost contact with her. I always call in “just in case†she might have mysteriously returned, but no one even knew who she was when I asked about her. This bar is TOTALLY full of Arabs and Indians. It’s about the only place in Walking Street Road that will let them in, so they’ve ended up catering to this market. I’m all for fun in a bar, but some of their behaviour was a little bit, how shall I say it, “disrespectful†to say the least. I don’t know why the girls would want to work here, but there weren’t many lookers amongst them! :barf:

 

I was actually feeling quite pleasantly pissed (“drunk†for you Americans!) and decided to return to Peppermint. Get back in the comfort zone, Piggy! :spin::help::drunk:

 

There was till no sign of Miss J, so sat chatting to the usual crew in there. They really are lovely to talk to. I know we go on about BG’s and all their tricks, but honestly, there really are some genuinely nice girls out there who seem to enjoy a chat and a laugh with their customers. I don’t over-buy LD’s for these girls and they don’t drink them quickly. They know I won’t BF them, but just seem happy to have a chat. Maybe they just like to be able to converse in Thai instead of English for a while. Mai roo. The more you question “the scene†the less answers you’re going to get – just go with the flow.

 

There is one girl in Peppermint who, in Piggy’s humble opinion, is one of the most beautiful girls he’s ever seen in any gogo bar in 12 years of bar hopping. I know I’m “the cus-to-merr†and can talk to any girl I like, but she’s still intimidating to me. She should have a self-regulated policy of only going with young, handsome rich men because anyone else with her would look downright silly! :drool:

 

More on her later.

 

You know sometimes you’re sitting in a gogo and you just feel that presence of someone next to you. You know they’re there, you’re know they’re looking at you and you know that when you turn around you are going to see a beautiful body, pearly white Thai teeth and long, flowing, silky “Pantene†hair. Same same now. :hubba:

 

“Well hello number XX! Sawasdee Khrup!â€Â

“Sawasdee Kha! I see you come here many times. Sit in same seat every time. Look like a nice man. Want to say hello to you and know you more.†What a nice introduction! Again, we all know these girls can bullshit at the Olympics for Thailand, but us blokes being simple creatures of the groin, we succumb to their nefarious charms every time, don’t we?

 

This girl was lovely. Miss C. 21 years old from Surin. Lovely long hair. A body unaffected by motherhood. Not too thin, with nice curves. Easy on the eye. (Sounds like my Peugeot 207 – ha!)

 

A few more beers went down and I decided that I needed to leave – fast. When I was picking up the check bin, Miss C gave me the old “bai duay gun†line. Being a Peppermint girl, I decided that the best form of defence was saying that I didn’t like short time and wanted to go sing some karaoke before going home. She then surprised me by saying she loves to sing karaoke and could she come too.

 

“Up to you if you want me go home with you after finish karaoke. If you want to go home alone, don’t need to pay me.†My crumbling defence and resolve wasn’t really having any effect. I then told her that I am a bit of a butterfly and I had been with other girls in Peppermint and might want to go with someone else tomorrow or another day. Again, the reply “mai pen rai – no phomphemâ€Â.

 

Sometimes it’s just nice to have a lovely companion for a few drinks. So I BF’d and off to karaoke we go. I like a girl who drinks Sang Som / Soda! Had a few drinks, she sang, I sang and then she said she wanted to stay with me.

 

Resolve and self-control now totally in rubble, (and realising I'd be home watching porn in 4 more days :wanker: ) I agreed.

 

Back to the room, and really nice, unrushed, gentle, sensitive, sensual sex. Twas great. I also like it when after the deed is done the girl in question doesn’t bolt straight into the shower to “wash off the farang dirtinessâ€Â. She just curled up into one of those little squirrel-balls that they go into, curled up with her wonderful soft arms around me and we fell asleep instantly. :sleeping:

 

Awoke in the morning with our limbs entwined. She wouldn’t let go no matter how I tried to re-postiion myself. Dozed and then had another nice, but short, session after waking. She didn’t want breakfast, I gave her 2000 baht and off she went with a kiss and a “waiâ€Â. Nice girl and will make someone a lovely gf sometime I think.

 

A quiet day and then off to The Mint again as usual to start the evening. Miss C phoned me to say she was tired and going to take her night off tonight and wouldn’t be in.

 

Arranged to meet up with a fellow board-member. I don’t want to mention his username here as it could affect his job, but he turned up and met me and had a couple of beers together. Really nice guy. Amazing how some great friendships have been forged from this bored – met some of the best guys I know on here and I hope it continues later this week! :grouphug:

 

Was good to meet a guy who lives here and knows the place well and got me out of my comfort zone a bit. But as I said to him, it’s different when you live here. When I did, it was no problem to go to numerous bars as you knew you could go back to your favourites any time. But when on holidays for 9 days, I tend to stick to places I know, I am known in and will have a good time in.

 

We went up to Iron as he hadn’t been there before. Again, some cuties in here and I like the decor. :thumbup:

 

Then he took me to Baby Girls A-Go-Go which (I think!) is in Soi Diamond up the far end. Great bar – hasn’t been in here before. Major diddling going on. Seems like anything goes in here! Girls were very friendly and playful. Ice shooting out of pussies, lesbian licking and fingering in the spa, peeing in the spa (!), dildos up pussies and in mouths and rubber-hose spanking. We had a good time in here – thanks for showing me! :applause:

 

Board member had to go home at this point, so I headed up to Cassnovy-A-Go Go. Not overly impressed. A couple of nice girls, but the music was just so damned loud! Then off to Happy A Go Go. Nice meeting from the Mamasan there whom I know well and sat and had a drink with her. As usual, hotties in here and some great dancing to look at. Quite busy as usual. One girl came up to me and said “hi†and things were looking promising and then after a couple of sentences left my mouth she said “oh.. can speak Thai. Mai aoâ€Â.... and then walked off! Interesting behaviour. A couple of beers in here, and then, feeling more than a little bit mao went back to The Mint. :drunk:

 

Miss Absolute Stunning Stunner (let’s call her “Miss Ass†for short!) was still there – I noticed she had been BF’d the previous 2 nights.

 

I realise everyone’s taste is different and one man’s angel is another man’s plate of vomit, but to me, she was just exceptional. She actually didn’t look like she had any attitude and smiled a lot which was nice to see for someone so hot.

 

Talked to Miss J’s friends again and a few LD’s. Miss J’s best friend actually bought a beer for me which was nice. Not sure why, but I’ll take it! I had mentioned to her that I thought Miss Ass was lovely. Upon returning from a trip to the bathroom, I found Miss Ass sitting right in my seat beaming at me. Miss J’s friend was giggling quietly next to her. Obviously a set up. I was determined to be good tonight. Actually, I just wanted to get really drunk. The beers were going down very easily. I think I stayed there until 3.00am or so which is quite late for me.

 

Definitely time to go home, alone.

 

Not 100% sure how I got there, but someone obviously took me to the right place because I woke up in my own bed, and alone (sans katoey) which is always a bonus when you’re that plastered. :drunk:

 

Didn’t have any Jim Beams last night – only about 20 beers! – so didn’t have a big hangover at all. Leisurely breakfast and the Bangkok Post.

 

My phone rings at 12.00 noon.

 

“Hello P’Moo Noi.â€Â

“Who’s this?â€Â

“You don’t know?â€Â

“No – I’m sorry. I don’t know.â€Â

“It’s Miss Ass!†:yikes:

“Huh? Really? How did you get my number?â€Â

“You gave it to me last night... jahm mai dai aor?†(Don’t remember?)

“Oh yes.. yes... I do rememberâ€Â, I lied. “Sorry, I just woke upâ€Â, I lied again.

“You told me last night you like to eat at Fuji and see movie. Want to go with me this afternoon?â€Â

“Um... yes. That would be great.â€Â

“Ok – see you at Big C Centre at 3.00pmâ€Â.

“Ok. See you.â€Â

 

Why me? Surely she would be happier going with one of her Thai friends? It's not like she has to cultivate customers - she has more "OFF'S" than behind the bike shed at a Catholic boys boarding school!

 

Go with the flow, Piggy... go with the flow.

 

WTF? Oh well, nothing to lose and could be fun. SMS’d CTO and Bust that I was off to the movies with her, but then turned my phone off so CTO couldn’t tell me the ending before I saw it as he usually does! :banghead:

 

She turned up looking, well, HOT! I know a lot of guys look really silly walking around Pattaya with their teerak-de-jour on their arm and normally it doesn’t worry me but I felt a bit self-conscious with Miss Ass next to me. She really was stunning. (Again, just MHO, but she was attracting a lot of other looks from males that we passed and a lot of grumpy looks from farang women). :grinyes:

 

Ate at Fuji and had a good chat. She certainly is a great conversationalist. Made me laugh too, which I like. 23 years old and from Pathum Thani near Bangkok. Kept telling myself to keep in control and just go with the flow. Don’t go there. We went and saw “New Moon†which was absolute shit. Don’t waste your money. Miss Ass seemed to enjoy it. She lifted up the armrest and snuggled up next to me during the movie. Stole a few passionate kisses from her during the flick too – amazing kisser. Big, bountiful lips that just devour you. I like. I like a lot! :cool:

 

7.00pm by the time the movie finished and she had to get ready for work. We parted and arranged to meet at Peppermint later. Back to the room and had a shower and then taxi motorcy up to Walking Street Road (sponsored by Samsung).

 

Usual spot in The Mint and usual company. Miss J’s phone still off and no sign of her according to her best friend. Her best friend said that Miss J has a lot of problems in her life and has quite a temper on her when things go wrong. She sounds like me to be honest – tries to do the right thing, but often has it ending up backfiring in her face. I know that feeling. :rolleyes:

 

I then made the mistake of asking her friend what Miss J wants from me. She talked at length about how Miss J always talks about me when I’m not here, says she misses me. She wants a better life and doesn’t want to work in the bar anymore. She wants to find a husband and provider. She wants another baby. All the usual things I guess. Who can blame her for wanting something more solid and stable? You can’t deny anyone that. She said Miss J told her she loves me a lot (but the Thai version of love, I’m sure, not the farang version) and sees me as a good life-partner. I then explained (as I had to Miss J) that I’m just not in a position to be that person at the moment, and I’m quite cynical about relationships. Her friend understood, but she said Miss J had a hard time accepting that and just thought I simply “didn’t like herâ€Â. So be it I guess.

 

Her friend explained to me that Miss J and her friends thought I am a nice guy, and they can see that I like to show respect to the girls, treat them as intelligent people and am always friendly and can make them laugh. That was a nice compliment. Sincere or not, I'm not sure, but nice of her to say it.

 

I saw Miss Ass walk in up the far end. On her way past the main stage a farang grabs her and has a word in here ear. Gone. She then comes over to me and says “P’Moo Noi, so sorry – customer bar fine me already.†I smiled and said that was fine and I understood she was working. Off she trots with Mr 60 (stone and age) to do whatever he wanted to do with her. Wasn’t seen again for the evening. :doah:

 

I was feeling lazy so I just decided to stay there for the evening. Some big spending guys come in and the place erupts. These guys throw WADS of 20 baht notes up in the air for the girls to catch, deposit ping pong balls by the bucket and generally throw the place into chaos. At one point, one of the guys threw a heap of 20 baht notes in the air which proceeded to all get stuck in the wire-mesh of the fan. It was funny watching the girls try to get the notes out with toothpicks and drinking straws. (Some of these girls are the same girls who go mad over a 20 baht ping pong ball, but complain when you give them 2000 baht in the morning! Weird, eh?)

:dunno:

 

These guys were creating such a commotion I had to move seats. Was sitting there and lo-and-behold, who should walk in but Miss J. Her best friend sitting next to me simply said “uh-oh.†That said it all really. She ducked out the back to deposit her bag and then came out and perused the bar. She had obviously seen me. There was a gentleman sitting pretty-much next to me, so what does Miss J do? Targets him of course. Within about 5 minutes and one LD she’s straddling his lap and all over him like a cheap suit. She’s hugging him and rubbing his head. He can’t see me, but she can. At one point she looks over at me and sticks her tongue out and gives me a look that would have me six-feet-under in an instant. Her friend said “let’s move seatsâ€Â, which seemed like a good idea to me. Her friend was quite apologetic and said she didn’t know why Miss J was acting “meuan dek†(like a child). She said she hadn’t seen her act this way before.

 

:nono::down:

 

Obviously, she just wanted to rub my face in it. After her LD with the other guy, she then moved on to another guy, again, very close to me.

 

Enough already. To be honest, I didn’t feel any jealousy at all. If she wants to play childish games then up to her. I’m not going to let it worry me. I just sat and talked to her friend and a couple of other girls and got progressively more inebriated. I had a good night. I could tell it was pissing her off seeing me have a good time without her. :surprised:

 

Decided about 2.00am to head home alone again. Another big night and just wanted to sleep. Fell asleep dreaming of Miss Ass curled up next to me doing all sorts of naughty things. So desperately want to go there before I leave on Friday. Right now, I really don’t care if it rubs J’s nose in it. She wanted to do it to me, I can do it right back. Sounds childish, but at the end of the day, it’s over and I’m here for a good time, not a long time. Miss C would be fine with it, as she knows she was just a one-off BF with her and I explained upfront that I tended to butterfly a bit.

 

I’m a little sad that things ended up this way though. I always believe in talking out a problem and trying the anti-confrontational approach, but it seems like J has completely gone off her rocker. I’m sure there’ll be another guy for her in the future – I hope there is. Deep down I think she’s a nice girl and has a lot to offer someone. But I think she has more issues than Newsweek and needs to sort herself out a bit and above all, grow up a bit. I know her domestic situation is awful, and I sincerely hope she gets over that soon. I guess we just met each other at the wrong time. And on top of that, I won’t let my cynical side of me be over-ruled by another part of me.

 

I guess I’m just destined to be a big butterfly man for a little while yet! :wave:

 

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Thanks for the reports...they are always highly entertaining and full of those 'yep' moments that take me back to my own experiences in LOS. I'll have to go into peppermint just to see some of these girls and try and identify who miss j etc are so i can put faces to names.

 

can't believe you went home alone several times....i don't usually do that until im red and sore down there and i really need a rest. in fact, the only time i remember doing that was in phuket with a mate and we decided to pull an all nighter where at about 6am we bought a bottle of san som and coke and ice and hit karon beach to keep drinking. ended up passing out on the beach and getting rudely awoken by a couple of 80 year old germans (the chick was topless)...arrrrgh

 

lucky for us though we would've gotten major sunstroke otherwise!...anyway i digress, thanks for the reports!

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You're welcome.

 

I guess I'm what you call a "day time shagger"! LOL.

 

I like the night-time for partying and prefer sex when I'm sober, not fumbling like some drunken school boy. I'm getting quite a bit of action in the daytime so it's all good.

 

Also having to watch the pennies this trip a bit as mentioned in report I, so that's been a bit of a downer, but all-in-all, I'm getting as much action I need at the moment!

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MN, Have fun with Miss ass, forget Miss J. Limited time my friend...and if you don't do it you will regret it.

 

Miss J needs to get her head and life sorted before she can have a relationship with anyone. You're not her absolution...you know it, I know it, we all know it.

 

Miss ass is where it's at!

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MN, Have fun with Miss ass, forget Miss J. Limited time my friend...and if you don't do it you will regret it.

 

Miss J needs to get her head and life sorted before she can have a relationship with anyone. You're not her absolution...you know it, I know it, we all know it.

 

Miss ass is where it's at!

 

:yeahthat:

 

If she is acting up like this it will only get worse!! :doah::doah::doah:

 

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This post is full of typos since i posted it with rapid fire typing, but.....

I read you earlier reports (about the way you treat "miss J" soon after they were posted, and I was disgusted back then...and now I read this.

 

You have been totally leading her on, and it disgusts me. You're not (yet) PURPOSELY leading her on and giving her false hopes, but you're far, far from being CLEAR with her and telling her FROM THE OUTSET that she should NOT COUNT on her a long term secure relationship. It's too late to tell her now...you've given her weeks or months of trouble. You just waffle about, telling everyone on this board how your just a monger and don't want to get involved "at this time", but you do not clearly TTELL HER that. But what you do, which shows that you really don't give a shit about her (and only care about the "entertainment value" for people like "faustian" who have nothing better to do than read your reports and beg for more...and so you get prodded on), is:

post all of her personal, troubling life on the web. Yes, of course you don't give her real name, but anyone can (and will, if they're interested) find out who she is. In fact, some posters in your previous thread wrote that they know who she is, as in "oh, yeah, i think i know her.....etc etc.). Maybe this girls wants some PRIVACY, as in the privacy you're obsessed along with the other board members here (since i constantly see posts like referring to how important that privacy is and the huge danger in your identities being "discovered"). Do you realize this girl is trying to get a better life, and will hopefully someday find someone who actually cares about her and "gets her out of the bar" and away from an abusive boyfriend.......WITHOUT HAVING TO WORRY that anyone can log on and read about "Miss J" in the future and find out things about her life they she would not want made public.

 

The key problem i see from your posts is that you

hafe basically zero knowledge about your own self and your motivations, and therefore little perception of others feelings. You claim to try to be a nice guy but it usually ends up fucked up, as you say.

Here are some examples of you self-knowledge:

In your earlier posts, you say you kept in touch with one particular thai girl for many years but "you have no idea why". A few months ago you call her when you get to thailand, she comes over, you fuck her, and "no money exchanges hands". Did you realize she NEEDS money? (I know how important money is to you though...the main theme constantly running through all your posts is how cheap pattaya is and how little you were able to spennd,.....or how some "airline" girl payed the bill for you one night, but you'll catch up with her later...). You have no idea why you stayed in touch with her for years and years via email? Do you have any idea why you emailed Miss J a few times prior to your recent visit?

 

Then dozens of statements like the following:

"I decided i'm not going to take a girl tonight.

Oh, i just looked out the window....now i'll just call a mssage girl up. Oh well, there goes my plans."

 

Then a few months ago, after hurting J's feelings quite a bit, you say to everyone: I'm thinking of going back to "the mint" tonight "just to see J's reaction". You're constantly hurting her feelings and giving her false hope (MIXED false hope i should say), then returning to the bar WHICH IS NOTHING BUT A DRAMA STAGE WITH ALL OF HER CO-WORKERS WATCHING EVERY MOVE..BUT A PLACE WHERE SHE WORKS AND WOULD PREFER NOT TO GET INTO THESE EMOTIONAL DRAMAS with the whole world watching.....just for your own kicks and to catch a little drama buzz.

 

To sum up, i'm not saying you're in the worst class of sex tourist (which would be those who rip the girls off, don't pay them, post their nude pics on the web after telling them that the "pictures' are only for themselves when in fact they're spread all over the web for the world to see if they want to log on)....but your in the category just above the worst.

You need to know your limitations...and those are your lack of self knowledge and "person perception". You don't know why you do things, and you don't really understand other people, and so you end up hurting them UNINTENTIONALLY. Thats dangerous. Since you do have enough brain cells to at least realize this girls life has a lot of problems AND SHE IS LOOKING TO BETTER HERSELF AND FIND A PERMANENT BOYFRIEND....that's good..but you also don't take it seriously and you constantly indicate you you think she's just

being a drama queen or something and faking things. Although you did some nice things (birthday present, cake, etc.), you need to know your limitations....You have not been clear with her from the start. You give her a signal that your possibly not intererested in a long term relationship RIGHT NOW, but suggest that could change in the future...so you keep leading her on to wait for you to change her mind. You should have told her from the start not to count on you for a the kind of security she wants.

 

Then you think she's being a jerk for the recent stuff she does (going after other guys in the bar right near you)......when in fact it's all a reaction to the garbage way you treat her, like shes a joke. Then you imply something like:

i'll play that game too now.

Although ikkrang mentioned that you're giving her mixed signals, that's so incredibly obvious that's its ridiculous. He only scratched one millionth of the surface of that is going on here, and what's wrong with ALOT of the sex tourists here.

 

I encourage everyone to go back and carefully read his Pig's previous reports and then compare them with what I wrote here. If i had to, i can go back and get exact quotes which back up everything i said here. Again, i think it's an asshole thing to do to post her personal details on the web just for everyones (especially "faustian's, who's only response is "oh, that was fun to read..more more ) cheap thrills, when in fact anyone can find out who she is, and it may hurt her chances in the future.

 

Yes, this post will seem (to other sex tourists on this board) as a harsh attack on someone who is not "intentionally out to screw up a bar girls life", and in fact treated her nicely a few times.... but still....i think its deserved, because you're screwing with people's emotional lives, despite being a (very) superficial "nice guy" who really doesn't know what the hell he's doing. You should warn these girls from the start what you're about.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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