hyaehus Posted December 25, 2009 Report Share Posted December 25, 2009 Yea, well unlike most of you, the years have crept up on me and now have reached the age of 65. Did well in business having lived in Asia for 16 years and formally retired in 1994, got a great offer from another company and gave them 3 years which they made good money and left happy at the top of my "game". Have built two houses in the USA, have some "toys" and have a great deal of contentment, and more than one girlfriend, one in the 30s and several 40s. Have been going to Bali, Phuket, Pattaya, Angeles City, Manila and Bangkok since the late 70s, early 80s and partaked of the ladies and nightlife with great enthusiasm and have had some great stories, experiences and memories. Going to Bangkok again and will be there for a month in March. My experience has changed over the years. Before when beating the ladies off with a stick was the norm, with advancing age, the interest of the lovelies has diminished towards me. The beer bar girls and go-go wenches tend to look the other way and don't catch the eye of the pretty ones any more. There are ways to get the pretty ones, which involves picking the cute ones from pictures at the massage websites and getting outcall or going there directly. While I don't stay there, the parking lot at Nana is much the same way after 2am with most looking the other way as I pass by into the coffee shop where I have my traditional early morning "orange cake" pastry from the showcase by the first door and diet coke. As the crowd begins thinning out as when I finish my late snack and there must be some desparation from those who need money but haven't made a connection, but I still sometimes have to pinch myself to make sure I really am not invisible. I wonder if it would make a difference if they knew I am always very generous and treat them very well without exception, never drunk and if it isn't going well with them at the hotel, am kind when asking them to leave and still leave a tip. I kind of doubt it....... I LOVE the nightlife and still am sexually active although when going several times a day or lately every day, need a bit of assistance from that miracle blue pill. I now limit my trips to Bangkok and sometimes a week in Pattaya, but am a fanatic about food, love Matsuzaka steaks and the great restaurants of Bangkok that in my opinion, have no equals anyplace in Asia. I write this not to exhibit bitterness or chagrin over advancing towards the twilight, but merely a point of information of something you might look forwards to as the years advance. The other thing that might be true is that while so many things change througout the years, the enjoyment and passions grow as well. Looking forward to my visit and hope you too find the many years of joy that the country of Thailand has afforded me. Remember, things change.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted December 25, 2009 Report Share Posted December 25, 2009 hi. Thank you for sharing this. It's something I really needed to hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted December 25, 2009 Report Share Posted December 25, 2009 We may have aged, but our money is still just as young and handsome as everyone else's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weird Posted December 26, 2009 Report Share Posted December 26, 2009 So I have 40 years of debauchery to look forward to before I need to settle down. Good to know.. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
typedef222 Posted December 26, 2009 Report Share Posted December 26, 2009 Thanks for starting this. I'm a bit younger, but we're all surely heading the same way. Few points: * How you look matters as much as how you present yourself, particularly at your age. Decent slacks, shirt, shoes. Any sort of shorts, sloppy T-shirt, flip flops, relaxed beach attire does not help. Thais are very conservative and judgmental -- they won't tell us anything to our face (even if we're borderline offensive, they just smile). * Try to smell good. Always smile, fake as it may be. Be polite in public, no need to talk too much. It helps. * Discard the illusion that the girls actually need to be attracted to you and that there ought to be an instant "spark". I think most guys go to bars for the feeling they're desired, not for the sex. You're probably missing this more than sex, as you said, you can always easily pick a girl from a fishbowl. If a girl doesn't make eye contact or smile, walk to her and talk to her anyway (or ask the mamasan). Feelings can develop later -- if you're nice and pay well, the girls will see the value in you as a good customer. * No need to promise payment over the odds, it gets you neither respect nor better service. Always better to under-promise and over-deliver -- settle on 1000-1500 baht ST, and then give her a tip (if you intend to call her again). I know a Thai girl (24, swimming teacher, never worked in nightlife) who seriously fell for a 70 year old guy who is not particularly rich. He always smiles and knows how to present himself. I feel silly giving advice to someone who probably knows more than me, but hope some of this helps... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekong Posted December 26, 2009 Report Share Posted December 26, 2009 Few points: * How you look matters as much as how you present yourself, particularly at your age. Decent slacks, shirt, shoes. Any sort of shorts, sloppy T-shirt, flip flops, relaxed beach attire does not help. Thais are very conservative and judgmental -- they won't tell us anything to our face (even if we're borderline offensive, they just smile). What a load of bollox! The Thais that I socialise with are far from that, whenever we go to my Brother in Laws house he is always Shorts, T-Shirt and Flip Flops, and before you as no he is not an Issaan rice farmer he works in International Banking. When I worked for a MNC in Thailand and we had social events everyone was in shorts and T-Shirts, Car Rallies, Camping Weekends, Rafting weekends, multiple team building events were always casual. Maybe in my 19 years 11 months of living here I may have overlooked something, but I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo_bill Posted December 26, 2009 Report Share Posted December 26, 2009 I am impressed by your brother in law wearing flip flops though being an international banker which is a great example for tremendous success in life , does he sell collaterised debt obligations ? I am sure he does not bother changing his clothes at work since we learn from you after 19 years and 11 months presence in Thailand that flips flops and t shirts are commonly accepted . What you did oviously overlook in your 19 years is that walking along minimum standards does not get you any further , women included . What a load of bollox . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo_bill Posted December 26, 2009 Report Share Posted December 26, 2009 Sir , what you are explaining to this board of finest gentlemen , some with slightly less than 20 years experience in place and most intimate understanding of the locals even when river-rafting , causes great disturbance . I understand that you feel rejected by the ladies and tend to relate this to your age . Very well . I would agree if you complain waiting unsuccessfully at Gaysorn Plaza for a Thai good-girl - stunner of 23 years joining you for a free Bj on the nearest closet within an hour. This won't probably work , but you are talking about nightlife ambience . Where true love usually is guaranteed if you did not forget your wallet at home . Do you probably smell like the Manila Central urban waste deposit or did you develop openly visible diseases like Leprosy or worse ? Your concern has certainly nothing to do with your age ; advanced age plus some cash is rather a winning combination . Do you probably wear a shirt that says something in Thai that you don't understand ? Maybe the translation is : " Don't spend money on women " . I am clueless . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Munchmaster Posted December 26, 2009 Report Share Posted December 26, 2009 ...., whenever we go to my Brother in Laws house he is always Shorts, T-Shirt and Flip Flops,.... when we had social events everyone was in shorts and T-Shirts, Car Rallies, Camping Weekends, Rafting weekends, multiple team building events were always casual.... Mekong, out and about in the city (day or night) is not the same as a BBQ at a mates house or camping out in the country or rafting down a river. Well dressed is appropriate for the city whereas shorts and T shirts are appropriate for these other activities. Obviously age is also a factor and the older one gets the more important it becomes how one presents oneself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
expat Posted December 26, 2009 Report Share Posted December 26, 2009 Yea, well unlike most of you, the years have crept up on me and now have reached the age of 65...snip...Remember, things change.... Thanks for your post. Nice to hear someone else's perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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