unit731 Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 Appolgies if this is mentioned eslwhere. LINK It's been described by both Thais and foreigners as shameful, a disgrace and embarrassing. And those are the words we can print. One of the most popular areas in Bangkok, the lower end of Sukhumvit Road undergoes a rapid transformation late every night when most of the bars and clubs are closing. DIRTY: Bars set up among the night’s rubbish on the lower end of Sukhumvit Road. "After they closed the bars early, the girls just took to the streets. At least when they work in bars like mine, there are some controls and regulations, like regular health checks. What really annoyed me and most of the other bar owners was that we had to stop selling alcohol, while the other unlicensed places that sprung up on the streets can stay open all night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroyinEwa/Perv Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 I do believe this is the 3rd thread on this, I could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unit731 Posted December 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 I wish I could find someone to read this board every day and just provide me with a summary. Maybe I can find a good Thai gal - sponsor her - and have her read the board for me - then send me a summary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadfly Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 There is at least one other - the one I started, which mentions that we could have written the article and that many of the things described in the article were predicted on this board (and others) years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobbledonk Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 I dont know that the area in question has ever been too flash, at least in my experience, but I find the sheer number of 'bandit' Arab women, complete with that hideous nose 'protector', the most disturbing part of the whole freak show. What the hell are they still doing wandering the streets at midnight, anyway ? As for the Farang who troop through their with their families, what were they expecting ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 The Grace Hotel actually was one of the three pickup places before the early 1980s. The freelancer troika consisted of the original Thermae Coffee Shop, the Thai Yonok Coffee Shop (now buried beneath Sogo) and the Grace Hotel Coffee Shop. I remember when the Grace was a fun place to go ... but that was in the 1970s. The Arabs started taking over in the early '80s, and the Africans arrived in the '90s. The Grace was indeed enjoyable once upon a time, but that was back before some people on this board had even been born. Still, I have never seen it as bad as it is now. Walk along the pavement north of the Grace and you'll find it smells like a bog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinod Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 The Grace was indeed enjoyable once upon a time, but that was back before some people on this board had even been born. yes those were golden past years, and beyond suk., the Siam Coffee Shop which is no more.... it all history.... many ppl., do not even know.... I had wonderful time at grace & SCS...... cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckwoww Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 I enjoyed the Grace right up till the 90s. Used to like watching Saudis etc. fooling around with the fat girls. 911 ruined the atmosphere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evel_Penivel Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 The Grace Hotel was one of the first places I visited in Bangkok on my maiden trip back in 1979. I'd been inspired by a line in Playboy magazine - "If you can't get laid out of the coffee shop at the Grace Hotel, you can't get laid anywhere in the world." Back in those days, the windowless coffee shop lived up to its reputation. It was open 24/7 and at night, there were at least five girls to every guy. The Grace Hotel itself was a dump. Built in the early 1960s as an R&R hotel for U.S. military personnel, it had become horribly run down by the mid-1980s. The original owners were famous for never spending a single baht on upkeep. The first trip report I wrote for a LOS Internet board was about a very brief return visit I made to the Grace in 2005. I knew was going to be bad, but it exceeded the worst of my expectations. There's fun sleaze and there's ugly sleaze and the sleaze at the Grace had become hideously ugly. But there was a certain geopolitical irony to the fate of the Grace. From an R&R hotel for U.S. military to an R&R hotel for Al-Qaeda in 40 some years. On a dare (actually a challenge) I went back to the Grace in October 2009. I was most likely the only farang in the whole building. There were very few people of any description - it was DEAD, DEAD, DEAD. I don't know if had to do with Rama Dama Ding Dong, but aside from a couple of morbidly obese Thai girls and a few older men in traditional robes, it was deserted. Grace Hotel ... I agree with the article that the Sukhumvit area has a sharper edge at night than before, but that has to do with the proliferation of African drug dealers and scammers. It would be very easy for the BiB to scare them off - I just wonder why they don't. Evil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadfly Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 agree with the article that the Sukhumvit area has a sharper edge at night than before, but that has to do with the proliferation of African drug dealers and scammers. It would be very easy for the BiB to scare them off - I just wonder why they don't. Good question. Up until recently, making sure that no titties were on show in NEP was more important than the the rampant (and almost certainly more lucrative) drug dealing and worse going on in the lower sois of Sukhumvit. Misplaced priorities from the new social order? It's interesting how Sukhumvit now changes as you go from Nana to Ekkami at night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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