Lost 12 Kg and still going

[TheCorinthian]

 

So, as a fitness trainer you should know what function of the human body demands more energy than any other function? The digestion of food!

 

 

 

I disagree again. Heat regulation followed by oxygen delivery. Heck, about 25% of the energy from cell respiration is used for brain metabolism.

 

 

 

I am not a true fitness trainer, I have just been training Cops and then Marines most of my life. But I am a theoretical scientist and have participated on studies of bioenergetics. One was here in thailand and related to the Aids vaccine study.

 

 

[ozpharlap]

Human beings need energy for the following:

 

* Basal metabolism. This comprises a series of functions that are essential for life, such as cell function and replacement; the synthesis, secretion and metabolism of enzymes and hormones to transport proteins and other substances and molecules; the maintenance of body temperature; uninterrupted work of cardiac and respiratory muscles; and brain function. The amount of energy used for basal metabolism in a period of time is called the basal metabolic rate (BMR), and is measured under standard conditions that include being awake in the supine position after ten to 12 hours of fasting and eight hours of physical rest, and being in a state of mental relaxation in an ambient environmental temperature that does not elicit heat-generating or heat-dissipating processes. Depending on age and lifestyle, BMR represents 45 to 70 percent of daily total energy expenditure, and it is determined mainly by the individual’s age, gender, body size and body composition.

 

* Metabolic response to food. Eating requires energy for the ingestion and digestion of food, and for the absorption, transport, interconversion, oxidation and deposition of nutrients. These metabolic processes increase heat production and oxygen consumption, and are known by terms such as dietary-induced thermogenesis, specific dynamic action of food and thermic effect of feeding. The metabolic response to food increases total energy expenditure by about 10 percent of the BMR over a 24-hour period in individuals eating a mixed diet.

 

* Physical activity. This is the most variable and, after BMR, the second largest component of daily energy expenditure. Humans perform obligatory and discretionary physical activities. Obligatory activities can seldom be avoided within a given setting, and they are imposed on the individual by economic, cultural or societal demands. The term "obligatory" is more comprehensive than the term "occupational" that was used in the 1985 report (WHO, 1985) because, in addition to occupational work, obligatory activities include daily activities such as going to school, tending to the home and family and other demands made on children and adults by their economic, social and cultural environment.

 

Discretionary activities, although not socially or economically essential, are important for health, well-being and a good quality of life in general. They include the regular practice of physical activity for fitness and health; the performance of optional household tasks that may contribute to family comfort and well-being; and the engagement in individually and socially desirable activities for personal enjoyment, social interaction and community development.

 

* Growth. The energy cost of growth has two components: 1) the energy needed to synthesize growing tissues; and 2) the energy deposited in those tissues. The energy cost of growth is about 35 percent of total energy requirement during the first three months of age, falls rapidly to about 5 percent at 12 months and about 3 percent in the second year, remains at 1 to 2 percent until mid-adolescence, and is negligible in the late teens.

 

* Pregnancy. During pregnancy, extra energy is needed for the growth of the foetus, placenta and various maternal tissues, such as in the uterus, breasts and fat stores, as well as for changes in maternal metabolism and the increase in maternal effort at rest and during physical activity.

 

* Lactation. The energy cost of lactation has two components: 1) the energy content of the milk secreted; and 2) the energy required to produce that milk. Well-nourished lactating women can derive part of this additional requirement from body fat stores accumulated during pregnancy.

 

You may also like to review the medical paper of Dr. Ian P Pavlov: The Work of the Digestive Glands. London: Grifin, 1902 or the works of Herbert M Shelton., Ph.D. Human life, Its Philosophy and laws. Mokelhummne Hill, California: Health Research 1979.

[TheCorinthian]

It's easer to say, "Humans need energy to survive." And though a lot above is true, many of the earlier statements just dont fly with the teachings and experiments that I have been through.

 

Bro, I dont want to sound mean or argumentative but I dont know where you are getting a lot of this. Some of it is close to my schooling but not quite. Also, I have to say, a lot of unverifiable assumptions.

 

For example, a good deal of digestion is via chemical reaction with enzymes which are markedly efficient and thus energy saving. We would be virtual sloths if digestion was the number one energy user.

 

Another good example is a platoon of US Marines. They consume over 10k cals a day, and have about the highest intake of poisons in their peer level via nicotine and alcohol and other junk.

 

They are also on average the most physically fit which blows the detox theory on its ear. And yes we test that.

{Edit: this is not to say that I advocate smoking or that stoping to poison your body is useless or un-beneficial.}

 

Here is a good but technical article by a man I respect. It is long but and you may have to skip some parts of it, but it is a good overview of much of the current state of understanding:

 

http://expertpages.com/news/concepts_in_human_factors_engineering_1.htm

[ozpharlap]

You don't appear argumentative, I added some papers to my previous post but you had already replied, so, I will repost it here, below, as well. I shall read your article but we will surely continue to disagree

 

Dr. Ian P Pavlov: The Work of the Digestive Glands. London: Grifin, 1902 or the works of Herbert M Shelton., Ph.D. Human life, Its Philosophy and laws. Mokelhummne Hill, California: Health Research 1979.

[TheCorinthian]

No worries then. I'll look at it. And check out Andrewes' work too.

 

You don't appear argumentative, I added some papers to my previous post but you had already replied, so, I will repost it here, below, as well. I shall read your article but we will surely continue to disagree

 

Dr. Ian P Pavlov: The Work of the Digestive Glands. London: Grifin, 1902 or the works of Herbert M Shelton., Ph.D. Human life, Its Philosophy and laws. Mokelhummne Hill, California: Health Research 1979.

 

[Bangkoktraveler]

That is fine, and we shall agree to disagree

 

After all, it is simple chemistry, take chicken and rice, the digestive juices to break down one is acidic, the other is alkaline, what happens, they neutralize each other ... eventually most of this food putrefies (the protein) and ferments (the carbohydrate) ... most of this food is then wasted, and not used and passes from the stomach for peristaltic action in the intestines ... it also generates toxic acids in the body and very little nutrients.

 

So, as a fitness trainer you should know what function of the human body demands more energy than any other function? The digestion of food! The digestion of food takes more energy than running, swimming, or bike riding. Look it up, name me one physical activity there is that takes more energy than the digestion of food.

 

Energy is crucial for the all-important detoxification (elimination of toxic waste) of the body. It takes energy to eliminate. The way we assist the body is to supply it with readily available energy on a steady basis. This is the answer to being healthy and trim. Your body does not get energy from exercise, thus exercise in relation to weight loss is not essential - it has its own reasons for health and vitality.

 

[color:red]The cornerstone of weight loss is detoxification[/color], and detoxification is entirely dependent upon energy. What is the best way the body gets energy, good foods and properly combined. That is why, when you eat that way, you feel full of energy and can eat much more.

 

However, if we sit down in a bar one day an have an hour or so to kill, i will discuss it with you in far greater detail, who knows, maybe you might agree

 

 

 

I would say you 'hit' it mostly on the head with this one. Detox is important.

 

I used to go to one of the World's best specialist on environmental illness. Her philosophy was if you get detoxed, you would lose weight and feel better. I had been exposed to several toxins and poisions. Once I detoxed, I felt a whole lot better.

 

For those, which is just about everybody, who have taken antibiotics, restoring the good bacteria in our system will also help the process.

[kamui]

Guys, you are way too complicated.

Why don't you stick to common sense:

 

- a) A *healthy* diet consisting of mostly, or if possible 100%, non processed food (fresh veggies, fruits, brown rice, full grain bread, dairy, fish, chicken, healthy oils, e.g.). Of course organic is better, but very expensive.

You eat the stuff you like, but mix carbs, protein and fat in most meals. And of course you'll need to have a calorie deficit.

- Basic exercises

cardio= running, e.g.

weight training with free weights.

 

This diet is very simple in it's structure, can be adapted to most countries. But of course not to all living conditions. While you can by non processed/fresh food in street of BKK, you won't much in most places in the USA (for reasonable price that is).

The training can be done in almost all gyms and is said to be the most effective for desktop warriors.

 

Of course there are other solutions like Coss' Atkins diet, especially since he has gout. I did Atkins myself, I found it impossible to follow for longer than a few months.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Bangkoktraveler]

Guys, you are way too complicated.

Why don't you stick to common sense:

 

- a) A *healthy* diet consisting of mostly, or if possible 100%, non processed food (fresh veggies, fruits, brown rice, full grain bread, dairy, fish, chicken, healthy oils, e.g.). Of course organic is better, but very expensive.

You eat the stuff you like, but mix carbs, protein and fat in most meals. And of course you'll need to have a calorie deficit.

- Basic exercises

cardio= running, e.g.

weight training with free weights.

 

This diet is very simple in it's structure, can be adapted to most countries. But of course not to all living conditions. While you can by non processed/fresh food in street of BKK, you won't much in most places in the USA (for reasonable price that is).

The training can be done in almost all gyms and is said to be the most effective for desktop warriors.

 

Of course there are other solutions like Coss' Atkins diet, especially since he has gout. I did Atkins myself, I found it impossible to follow for longer than a few months.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You got it all wrong!

 

All that is needed is a healthy diet of Thai pussy, don't you agree?

[kamui]

You got it all wrong!

 

All that is needed is a healthy diet of Thai pussy, don't you agree?

 

When I look around in SC am not shure that this is enough... :content:

[Bangkoktraveler]

You got it all wrong!

 

All that is needed is a healthy diet of Thai pussy' date=' don't you agree? [/quote']

 

When I look around in SC am not shure that this is enough... :content:

 

 

Remeber the good old days when you would see a farang with 3 Thai ladies?