Paki attacki the Glass Door

[LizardKing]

As a Yank, I do not find being called that a negative. Depends upon the context.

[robaus]

LK,

 

Maybe you are not offended, but often the implied meaning comes from the user not the receiver.

 

In the forthcoming British elections, some MPs will win their seats by promoting their "Socialist" principles, whereas it doesn't translate transatlantically, where "Socialist" according to Fox Noise is something akin to Devil Worship.

 

I don't think I have ever heard the word Paki used with positive implied feelings, nor has the wide spectrum of British and Australian readership.

 

[SpiceMan]

I don't think I have ever heard the word Paki used with positive implied feelings, nor has the wide spectrum of British and Australian readership.

 

The word "Paki" can be used with neutral intent. It was originally used without malice by settlers from Pakistan to denote their original country. In the 70's British Pakistanis became the target of hatred and the term "Paki" became a word for racial abuse. But it remains the most concise; and for the reason Mekong pointed out; the most correct term do describe those people. Maybe if more people adopted the word its meaning could be cleaned up.

 

[robaus]

Language has a life of its own. Meanings and connotations change. Try telling a bunch of rugby players celebrating in the communal tub after a game .... "You're a gay bunch, aren't you."

 

As much as Mekong or Badabing would like to shovel shit uphill trying to alter semantics, the "reality" is that "Paki" is far from being correct and is an offensive term to 100% of Pakistanis and recognized as offensive by 99% of the rest of the world. So just use the word Pakistani instead... problem solved... everyone happy.

 

[Mekong]

 

As much as Mekong or Badabing would like to shovel shit uphill trying to alter semantics, the "reality" is that "Paki" is far from being correct and is an offensive term to 100% of Pakistanis and recognized as offensive by 99% of the rest of the world. So just use the word Pakistani instead... problem solved... everyone happy.

 

 

See Previous you Ignotant fool

 

The Suffix "Stan" means "Place Of" or "Land Of" so it makes sense that the people are Pakis, just as Afghans are not "Afghanistanis" and Tajik's are not "Tajikistani's", Uzbeks are not "Uzbekistani's", Kurds are not "Kurdistanis", etc etc, I could go on and on with the Khazaks, and the Wazirs, and Turkmens, etc etc

 

So far all of them follow the same set of rules but Paki"stanis"

 

Do you wish to counter this fact with your own facts or do you just buy into the bullshit?

 

Prove I am wrong using the collective name PAKI the same as I use Afghani, Tajik, Uzbek, Kurd, Khazak etc and I may buy into you ideas.

 

For the record I have worked and lived in all of the "Stans" I mention.

 

 

 

 

[SpiceMan]

Just out of interest, robaus, do you object to Thais using the word "farang"?

 

[The_Munchmaster]

To my ear the connotations of these nationalities are:

 

Kiwi – positive

Yank – negative

Pommie – can be both positive and negative depending on context

Krout – negative

Frog – negative

Wop – negative

 

Paki – negative, probably a leftover from the context of Paki bashing in the 70s.

The name Paki is a shortened version of the country name Pakistan but none of the other names that you have listed are shortened versions of their country names, they are just names, so that kinda makes your post irrelevant and pointless.

[robaus]

I'm afraid you are the one demonstrating your ignorance.... don't you get it ... language ,especially English, is a living thing.. it doesn't fucking well follow neat little rules. The French with their L'Académie française try to make French follow rules, but they are shovelling shit uphill too... not that you are genuinely trying .. you obviously have a hidden agenda.

 

Language IS what the majority interpret as "accepted meaning or usage".. otherwise none of us would ever communicate.

 

As in the example above:

 

Not long ago "gay" used to be accepted as "happy, joyful". Nowadays it is 99.9% commonly accepted as meaning "homosexual". To use it in its archaic sense would definitely prompt a reaction. Try using the word in conversation with your mates. Did you have a "gay" time down Soi Cowboy last night, lads? 10,000 baht says they'd think you were taking the piss and of course you would be. Just as you are now feigning innocence about never remotely thinking that the word "Paki" could possibly offend anyone.

 

If you insist on using the word "Paki" and continue to "pretend" that it is acceptable, it beggars the question ...WHY?

 

... and I think we all know the answer to that.

 

[robaus]

MM,

 

"Chink" is also a one syllable abbreviation for Chinese. Does that make it acceptable? Is it derogatory or not .. even though it refers to the country?

 

... "so that kinda makes your post irrelevant and pointless."

 

Cut the crap. Your bigotry doesn't fool me for one minute. The word Paki most definitely conveys a negative meaning to all you racist apologists. You'd have all made good Nazis.

 

Racism should've gone out with the Ark, but you Neanderthals are still with us sadly.

 

No problem. There's a fair bit of it about. But don't think for one minute that it's acceptable to post racist remarks on a public forum with impunity.

 

[Guest lazyphil]

lets have a heated debate-so said mrs merton!!!