Usa Thread

[allistar]

Maybe, this was the government's plan all along. If this is upheld by the Supreme Court, and insurance companies leave the health insurance field, the government can step in and institute the public option as the only alternative.

[Flashermac]

I wouldn't put anything past Pelosi and Reid. They are determined to do what they think the public needs, and the public be damned if they disagree.

 

I still am 1,000% in favour of the proposal that Members of Congress must also come under the same coverage. To hell with Congressmen getting special treatment that is not provided to ordinary proles. We don't need any "elite governing class" of politicans.

 

 

[Hugh_Hoy]

No matter what the court says, as long as the GOP controls the House, Obamacare is merely gonna gather dust, cuz it ain't gonna get funded. :content:

 

HH

[LizardKing]

Maybe, this was the government's plan all along. If this is upheld by the Supreme Court, and insurance companies leave the health insurance field, the government can step in and institute the public option as the only alternative.

That would be my dream! But it will never happen. Too much money in insurance and they'll fight to the end to stop that.

[LizardKing]

No matter what the court says, as long as the GOP controls the House, Obamacare is merely gonna gather dust, cuz it ain't gonna get funded. :content:

Ya, cuz the GOP likes the death panel idea. Just ask Jan Brewer in AZ. How many people has she sentenced to death now? 100+?

 

http://healthdiscussions.net/2010/12/04/arizona-death-panels

 

It is just simply unAmerican to make sure all have access to healthcare. Fuck 'em, right HH? They shouldn't have gotten sick, right?

 

But I'm sure that if the gummint cut off his Medicare, VA, SSI, CALPERS pension, police/fire protection, or whatever other "socialized" thing he takes advantage of, he'd be hypocritically screaming...

[Flashermac]

Easy solution. Make all American citizens honorary members of Congress. They we all got federal coverage.

 

 

[LizardKing]

Easy solution. Make all American citizens honorary members of Congress. They we all got federal coverage.

 

I too think the Congresscritters should have the same plan as everyone else. Funny how the GOPers against Obamacare certainly have not given up their government healthcare.

 

Medicare for All (plus the option of additional private insurance should you want it ala the Oz model) is the answer.

 

[Flashermac]

I have no problem with the GOP not giving it up as long as the Dems don't either. Why do we have an oligarchy in Washington? People complain about the class structure in LOS. How is it different in Washingdung DC? There's them and us ... the field hands.

 

 

[LizardKing]

Obama's Health-Care Law Ruled Unconstitutional Over Insurance Requirement

 

 

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The Obama administration’s requirement that most citizens maintain minimum health coverage as part of a broad overhaul of the industry is unconstitutional, a federal judge ruled, striking down the linchpin of the plan.[/color]

 

[color:red]U.S. District Judge Henry Hudson in Richmond, Virginia, today said that the requirement in President Barack Obama’s health-care legislation goes beyond Congress’s powers to regulate interstate commerce. While severing the coverage mandate, which is set to become effective in 2014, Hudson didn’t address other provisions such as expanding Medicaid.[/color]

 

 

Of course 13x it has been dismissed as a non-starter and twice ruled constitutional. But hey, as we learned in 2000, not even the SCOTUS is impartial and if one looks hard enough, they will find a judge who'll happily be an "activist" for "his party." Even tho' he's not supposed to have one. But that's just silly details, innit?

 

Under the circumstances, today's ruling wasn't exactly a shocker. Let's meet Judge Hudson...

 

That prediction is built partly on Hudson's roots in Republican politics. He was elected Arlington's commonwealth attorney as a Republican, briefly ran against U.S. Rep. James P. Moran (D-Va.) in 1991 and has received all of his appointments -- as U.S. attorney, as a Fairfax County Circuit Court judge in 1998 and to the federal bench in 2002 -- from Republicans. [...]

 

It is somewhat unusual for a federal judge to give an interview in the midst of a major case. But Hudson has always been known for his willingness to step into the public light.

 

In the 1980s, President Reagan appointed him chairman of the Meese Commission, a controversial group that investigated the effects of pornography.... In the 1990s, Hudson had his own radio show and made regular appearances as a television legal analyst. [...]

 

Judge Hudson’s financial disclosure forms show that from 2003 through 2008, Judge Hudson received “dividends†from Campaign Solutions Inc., among other investments. A Republican online communications firm, Campaign Solutions, has done work for a host of prominent Republican clients and health care reform critics, including the RNC and NRCC (both of which have called, to varying degrees, for health care reform's repeal). The president of the firm, Becki Donatelli, is the wife of longtime GOP hand Frank Donatelli, and is an adviser to former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, among others. Another firm client is Kenneth Cuccinelli, the Attorney General of Virginia and the man who is bringing the lawsuit in front of Hudson's court. In 2010, records show, Cuccinelli spent nearly $9,000 for Campaign Solutions services.

 

If Judge Hudson had any ethics (555555, sorry, I know, that's stupid because he's a GOPer!), he would have recused himself from this case.

[Hugh_Hoy]

Now that's FUNNY: A lib talking about "ethics".

 

HH