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John Boehner Upset That The Payroll Tax Cut Extension Means Ordinary Americans Will Have More MoneySo let's get this straight: Boehner "supports" the "agreement" that will "stop a tax hike on middle class Americans." But! He says, "let's be honest, this is an economic relief package, not a bill that's going to grow the economy and create jobs." Everyone should note the separation here. Per Boehner, providing tax relief to the middle class -- while it may be swell for them, and even "fair" -- is something that has no beneficial impact on the economy or employment.

The implication here is that you're never helping the economy by giving the middle class an advantage of any kind. To Boehner's mind, it's not a good thing to put more money in the pockets of ordinary Americans, with which they could ... I'm just spitballing here ... buy stuff, increase demand and spur additional hiring. And yet, when I cast my mind back to the job creators we've talked to, they've made it pretty clear that they hire when they are profitable, and that in order to be profitable, people have to actually buy stuff.

To Boehner's mind, the only thing that can or should be done to aid the economy is funnel more taxpayer money to the wealthy "job creators,"

 

Steve...that's just total nonsense. Whoever wrote that has been smokin' too much crack. (Maybe even just a little bit.) The opposition to the payroll tax cut has been that it will continue to (and substantially) underfund Social Security projected obligations. The GOP has been working on trying to do a fix on Social Security for some time and a bill to do that will probably emerge in Congress in the next week or so. For sure, not everybody is going to agree or like some of those provisions, for instance: extending the age at which contributors can start drawing benefits; "means testing"; allowing individuals to contribute to private retirement plans (rather than social security). Like Medicare, the SS system is screwed unless something significant is done. As for Medicare "as we know it", it can not continue. I heard on TV the other day that the typical couple recievies $300,000 in medicare benefits during their lifetimes, but only contribute $100,000. Both programs are, as Perry put it, Ponzi schemes.

 

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Steve...that's just total nonsense. Whoever wrote that has been smokin' too much crack. (Maybe even just a little bit.) The opposition to the payroll tax cut has been that it will continue to (and substantially) underfund Social Security projected obligations. The GOP has been working on trying to do a fix on Social Security for some time and a bill to do that will probably emerge in Congress in the next week or so. For sure, not everybody is going to agree or like some of those provisions, for instance: extending the age at which contributors can start drawing benefits; "means testing"; allowing individuals to contribute to private retirement plans (rather than social security). Like Medicare, the SS system is screwed unless something significant is done. As for Medicare "as we know it", it can not continue. I heard on TV the other day that the typical couple recievies $300,000 in medicare benefits during their lifetimes, but only contribute $100,000. Both programs are, as Perry put it, Ponzi schemes.

 

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Neither party will acknowledge that the main problem with Social Security and Medicare is both programs

are excellent programs but the moneys destine for these programs did not go to these programs but to the Department of the Treasury.

If the money had gone to these 2 programs and was used for these two programs,

the USA government would have been forced to try to manage their programs better.

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Gotta admit, one of the stories said one terrorist was going to use a model airplane, pretty good idea actually. I once heard that if you were part of the briefing about the threat assesments and such you'd be hardpressed not to want to end most civil liberties. However, its not what we are about as a people and the added exposure is the price we pay for those liberties.

 

Still, any security expert will tell you the TSA bullshyt is all show and is not worth the time and effort in the war on terrorism.

 

 

The idea of using a model airplane as the weapon of choice for a terrorist attack has been around for some time.

 

They were imitating USA drones.

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Politics of Canines and Conventions

 

This is rediculous. A video of Romney's dog being driven on a trip and he's tied to the roof in open air in the '80s. Sounds a little crazy but the Dems are possibly going to use it in the campaign. C'mon Dems. WTF. Stick to relative points. This is rediculous. Trying to get the PETA vote?

 

There are much, much more substantive reasons NOT to vote for Romney and to focus on.

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HH, what is the Republican solution for SS and Medicare? Its to end it and replace it with something worse probably. SS and Medicare are part of our lives. Thats a reality that has to be dealt with. Too many people need it.

I'm sure there have been and if not there should be some independent, non partisan group to analyze these two programs and make suggestions. Wonder what they said? I don't know enough about it to comment other than they obviously need fixing.

 

What's even scarier is that the Fed has loaned out 16 trillion and no one from either party has batted an eye about that relevation from that limited audit. Repubicans are talking about the debt that Obama has accumulated but NO ONE addresses the Fed. The only reason I can think of is some collusion and fear that the real truth would make us all lose complete faith in the government.

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HH, what is the Republican solution for SS and Medicare? Its to end it and replace it with something worse probably. SS and Medicare are part of our lives. Thats a reality that has to be dealt with. Too many people need it.

 

Replace it with something worse? LOL. How to you replace something that isn't there any longer? Face it. By the time you're eligible for these programs, they won't exist in the existing form. They will be in history books. Too many people need it cuz they've been led to depend on them...you know, part of The Great Society in which Government will take care of all of your "needs". Some people are probably just born lucky...never sneeze in their lifetimes. At the other end of the spectrum are those who are born who will struggle to survive with their first breath. It's a fact of life. You can not sustain a quality of life for the masses, when you downgrade that quality to take care of those who are either "unlucky" or just plain demand that others take care of them. If some rich dude can afford a heart transplant, I say good for him. I could not afford such an operation. My bad "luck"? Yeah, maybe. Maybe I wasn't as smart as that guy. Maybe I didn't work as hard as that guy. Maybe I was one of those who just thought that my supplemental social security checks were enough. I mean, who the F wants to go to bed at 9 p.m., wake up at 5:30 a.m. and drive to work in the dark? Much more fun to party til 2 a.m., sleep til noon and have my neighbor buy my food, pay my rent, take care of any kids I might have along the way. There's an old saying about making your own bed.

 

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Replace it with something worse? LOL. How to you replace something that isn't there any longer? Face it. By the time you're eligible for these programs, they won't exist in the existing form. They will be in history books. Too many people need it cuz they've been led to depend on them...you know, part of The Great Society in which Government will take care of all of your "needs". Some people are probably just born lucky...never sneeze in their lifetimes. At the other end of the spectrum are those who are born who will struggle to survive with their first breath. It's a fact of life. You can not sustain a quality of life for the masses, when you downgrade that quality to take care of those who are either "unlucky" or just plain demand that others take care of them. If some rich dude can afford a heart transplant, I say good for him. I could not afford such an operation. My bad "luck"? Yeah, maybe. Maybe I wasn't as smart as that guy. Maybe I didn't work as hard as that guy. Maybe I was one of those who just thought that my supplemental social security checks were enough. I mean, who the F wants to go to bed at 9 p.m., wake up at 5:30 a.m. and drive to work in the dark? Much more fun to party til 2 a.m., sleep til noon and have my neighbor buy my food, pay my rent, take care of any kids I might have along the way. There's an old saying about making your own bed.

 

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HH, look at the 'Indians' and veterans who have been on the dole for over 1 1/2 centuries and that system still 'works'.

 

People have been bitching about Medicare and Social Security claiming they are entitlements but rarely discuss Medicaid which probably is an entitlement.

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HH, I have several brothers. The one I was closest to in age as well as roommates with since the day he was born till I left for college, is very far right. You'll get a chuckle when he's now said I'm a full fledged, card carrying "pinko red commie" socialist. haha...we love each other but his facial expressions when I talk politics now is the same as smelling a fart (when we skype). We are both huge fans of Star Wars and accuse each other of being fooled by a Sith Lord. When I say I now support gay marriage he asked if I 'switched teams' and if I did I better be 'pitching and not catching'. hahaha

 

Any way on to poli-tricks.

http://thinkprogress.org/green/2012/02/17/428148/house-passes-section-of-transportation-bill-consisting-only-of-earmarks-to-big-oil/?mobile=nc

Last night the House of Representatives passed part of the behemoth transportation bill it is considering over the next month on a 237-187 vote. This section consisted solely of earmarks to Big Oil including drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, opening Florida coasts to offshore drilling, a plan to develop oil shale (which isn’t even commercially viable), and building the Keystone XL pipeline. A Congressional Budget Office analysis shows that the drilling proposals together generate only approximately $2 billion, far less than the $50 billion funding gap needed for transportation projects over the coming years.

Even if the drilling could pay for the costs, linking oil and gas development to long-term highway funding is just bad public policy, as Ryan Alexander of the nonpartisan group Taxpayers for Common Sense has explained:

 

Paying for a couple of years of transportation funding with expected revenues from an increase in oil and gas drilling that will likely take many years to get rolling is not a responsible budget approach… It’s like buying the Ferrari tomorrow because you are sure a raise is coming sometime in the future.â€

 

 

We simiply need to change our economy from an oil based one for a few reasons that are political, economical and environmental. Another of my long list of faults I find with the Republican party is that they want to (via their Oil industry masters) want us to be even more dependent on oil.

 

We've seen what over reliance on oil has done. Look at the '73 embargo, look at the repurcussions of seeing the price of oil shoot up and what it has done to the average American and its insane to want us to be even more entrenched.

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http://news.yahoo.com/nypd-monitored-muslim-students-over-northeast-201653480.html

NYPD monitored Muslim students all over Northeast

The New York Police Department monitored Muslim college students far more broadly than previously known, at schools far beyond the city limits, including the elite Ivy League colleges of Yale and the University of Pennsylvania, The Associated Press has learned.

"As a result, the NYPD deemed it prudent to get a better handle on what was occurring at MSAs," Browne said in an email. He said police monitored student websites and collected publicly available information, but did so only between 2006 and 2007.

 

"I see a violation of civil rights here," said Tanweer Haq, chaplain of the Muslim Student Association at Syracuse. "Nobody wants to be on the list of the FBI or the NYPD or whatever. Muslim students want to have their own lives, their own privacy and enjoy the same freedoms and opportunities that everybody else has."

 

The one issue I have is a jurisdictional one. Save that I think it was prudent to monitor these groups sites.

 

The only other possible issue I have is if they read private emails, letters and listened in private phone calls without probable cause. It would have be a helluva cause.

 

What specific civil liberties is the spokesperson said were violated. If the site is a public site, then I don't have an issue with it.

 

Following them is a bit of a gray issue to me depending on the circumstances.

 

For example, I don't agree with the illegal monitoring the FBI did against MLK. He was not a threat to the U.S. As far as Malcolm X and the nation of Islam I can understand monitoring since some of them and this would include the Black Panthers advocated the violent overthrow of the country. That's a legitimate reason to monitor and in some cases even view private information. MLK posed no such threat. His civil liberties violation were based on racism in my opinion.

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