Usa Thread

[zzzz]

Looking at the stats, it's surprising that, in the USA, twice as many people commit suicides using firearms than murders using firearms. Also, it's been reported (USA Today) that deaths caused by mass killers represented about 1 percent of all homicides between 2006 and 2010. The CDC estimates that deaths from firearms, which include suicides and accidents, are estimated to rise to 33,000 in 2015 and exceed auto-related deaths which will fall to 32,000.

[gobbledonk]

1 per cent of > 10,000 gun-related homicides each year isnt cause for celebration. I wonder how many of the other homicides involved the murderer shooting a 5-year old in the face ? Automatic/semi-automatic weapons dont belong in the hands of civilians - simple as that. There will always be a black market, and the 'bad guys' will always get the weapons they want, but you wont have the situation where a paranoid grade-school teacher can turn her house into an armory *legally*. His mother reportedly believed that the 'end times' were a-coming, and wanted to ensure that her family would be 'safe' : even Ted Nugent could see the irony in that.

[gobbledonk]

Flash I would have expected better from you.

 

+1

 

When a BM who is normally level-headed seems to be supporting the gun lobby, or at the very least discounting calls for change, I'm disappointed. It's interesting that the Americans on the board, normally critical of so many things in the 'old country', cant see a way out of the current obsession with guns while those of us from outside the US can see a way forward. I wonder if you would be willing to defend the indefensible if you found yourselves face-to-face with the parents of one of the dead kids.

[waerth]

Well there is one problem in the US which other countries do not have and that is the huge amount of weapons already out there. That is why I think a ban on selling ammo makes more sense .......

[zzzz]

Lot of these people in USA with assault weapons are preparing for the Zombie Apocalypse.

 

 

http://www.guns.com/...-zombie-gun-m4/

 

 

I have read cases where assault weapons were used by shopkeepers to hold back mobs of looters during riots in US cities.

[zzzz]

I just heard on NBC news that about 6% of the US population have serious mental illness. Most are not treated. Needless to say, you would likely find the mass killers in this 6% group.

[Bangkoktraveler]

Wasn''t it 60,000 people who were killed in Mexico?

 

Mexico has tough gun controls but a lot of their citizens still get killed by guns.

[Flashermac]

Stop being logical. Folks don't like it.

[gobbledonk]

zzzz, I take it you arent old enough to recall the LA riots ?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkCU_-0v4OY

 

Roughly half-way through the video, Korean shopkeepers adopt a 'shoot first and ask questions later' approach. I can understand people raiding food and water in an emergency, but the looting that seems to accompany disasters in the US is pathetic, not to mention the rapes which were allegedly committed post Katrina. Some truly sad fucks masquerading as humans in the general population.

[Flashermac]

Plenty of the Korean businessmen in LA are veterans of the South Korean Army. They were no nonsense folks in the VN War and the commies were reluctant to attack them. Don't mess with the ROKs.