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[Coss]

vis Cavanami and shirtless boy :  "The Mail Bomber is Almost Certainly a Liberal who Listens to Legacy Media Fearmongers"

except - 

A 56-year-old man, Cesar Sayoc Jr., was arrested Friday morning in Florida in the investigation of 12 suspected mail bombs sent to former President Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and other leading Democratic critics of President Donald Trump.  Sayoc, a registered Republican voter who lives in Aventura, Florida, will face federal criminal charges for the mailed devices.

- apparently it's his DNA on the bombs......

 

Nasty liberal Obama lover Hilary supporter   oops = Registered Republican.

https://www.redstate.com/sarah-rumpf/2018/10/26/suspected-bomber-florida-man-50s-criminal-history/

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/26/person-in-custody-in-connection-with-mail-bomb-probe.html

https://www.cbsnews.com/live-news/suspicious-package-pipe-bomb-suspect-arrested-plantation-florida-today-latest-2018-10-26-live/

 

Court records show Sayoc, an amateur body builder with social media accounts that denigrate Democrats and praise Trump, has a history of arrests for theft, illegal steroids possession and a 2002 charge of making a bomb threat.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/108156670/man-in-florida-arrested-in-connection-with-mail-bombs-sent-to-public-figures

 

[Coss]

You got to laugh at this, they're now calling him the MAGA bomber.....

The Aventura, Fla., resident's van which was confiscated by police was covered in a number of pro-Trump and Republican images. A “CNN sucks” images could also be seen; CNN’s N.Y.C. bureau was the co-target of two of the letter bombs that were addressed to James Clapper and John Brennan.....

[cavanami]

Alleged ‘MAGA Bomber’ Cesar Sayoc Only Follows Left-Wing People on Twitter

Despite his vehicle being festooned with pro-Trump stickers and him attending Trump rallies, so-called ‘MAGA bomber’ Cesar Sayoc doesn’t follow any Republicans or conservatives on Twitter, choosing instead to follow left-wing personalities like Lena Dunham, Jimmy Kimmel and Barack Obama.

For the weak minded, Coss....all the Trump stickers....this is called camouflage....

[Steve]

 

 

[Coss]

48 minutes ago, cavanami said:

Alleged ‘MAGA Bomber’ Cesar Sayoc Only Follows Left-Wing People on Twitter

Despite his vehicle being festooned with pro-Trump stickers and him attending Trump rallies, so-called ‘MAGA bomber’ Cesar Sayoc doesn’t follow any Republicans or conservatives on Twitter, choosing instead to follow left-wing personalities like Lena Dunham, Jimmy Kimmel and Barack Obama.

For the weak minded, Coss....all the Trump stickers....this is called camouflage....

You really are a moron.

"choosing instead to follow left-wing personalities like Lena Dunham, Jimmy Kimmel and Barack Obama."

That's called stalking.

[Steve]

My TV is more on Fox News than CNN actually because I want to know the talking points. I know CNN's talking points as they pretty much mirror my own. I also do a lot of listening on Youtube of conservative voices like Candace Owens, Thomas Sowell and even white supremacists like Jared Taylor and Richard Spencer. You can't adequately deconstruct a view if you don't know what the main tenets and reasoning is. 

It's very, very tough to listen to it sometimes but it helps immensely in personal conversations on politics, culture, etc, which I try to avoid but sometimes wade in. 

[Flashermac]

Migrant caravan: Mexico offers temporary work permits

Mexico has offered temporary work permits to migrants who register for asylum, as a big caravan of Central American migrants makes its way through the country toward the US.

The plan also envisages temporary ID cards, medical care and schooling.

But to qualify, migrants must remain in Mexico's southern Chiapas and Oaxaca states.

The US has warned that about 800 troops may be sent to the US-Mexico border to stop the migrant caravan.

"I am bringing out the military for this National Emergency," US President Donald Trump said earlier this week. "They [migrants] will be stopped!"

The president also threatened cutting aid to Guatemala, El Salvador and Honduras.

The caravan set off from Honduras several weeks ago.

What about Mexico's plan?

The scheme, announced by President Peña Nieto, covers Central Americans who have officially asked for a refugee status in Mexico or are planning to do so in the nearest future.

It is called Estas en Tu Casa ("This is Your Home" in Spanish).

"Today, Mexico extends you its hand," President Nieto said.

But he added: "This plan is only for those who comply with Mexican laws, and it's a first step towards a permanent solution for those who are granted refugee status in Mexico."

The plan envisages:

• Temporary ID cards and work permits
• Medical care
• Schooling for migrants' children
• Housing in local hostels

But President Nieto failed to explain what would happen to the migrants if they chose to carry on regardless.

The Mexican authorities are coming under increasing pressure from the Trump Administration to find a solution to this caravan, the BBC's Central America correspondent Will Grant in the town of Arriaga, Chiapas, reports.

The authorities are trying to tread a balance between placating the US and giving a green light to travel to potential future caravans, our correspondent adds.

Where is the caravan now?

The caravan is presently in Arriaga.

Most migrants said they had no intention of changing their plans to head to the US.

"The majority plan to cross the border. And that's my intention, too," Jose Santos, from Honduras, told the BBC.

"Because, yes, while life here is calmer than at home, it's still not like the US where it would get better. That's the goal: to have a better life."

Meanwhile, Anna Lisset Velazquez, also from Honduras, told the BBC: "It's a kind offer - but it's not the plan that we have, to stay here halfway up."

However, another migrant described Mr Nieto's proposal as a decent "plan B".

"Because we can't go back to Honduras. So, as a second choice we'd be better off here," Greville Juan Villanova said.

A spokesman for the United Nations said more than 7,000 people had joined the migrant caravan as of 22 October, citing estimates from the International Organization for Migration.

But the group has split up, which makes it difficult to determine the exact number.

The migrants say they are fleeing persecution, poverty and violence in their home countries of Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador.

Can they migrate legally?

On Thursday, Mr Trump once again urged the migrants to stay away, tweeting: "To those in the Caravan, turn around, we are not letting people into the United States illegally."

Many of the migrants say they plan to seek asylum in the US.

There is a legal obligation under international law to hear asylum claims from migrants who have arrived in the US if they say they fear violence in their home countries.

But in June, Attorney General Jeff Sessions announced that victims of domestic abuse and gang violence would no longer generally qualify for asylum in the US.

Those seeking asylum must be fleeing due to a serious fear of persecution in their home country. Under international law, these are considered refugees.

If an asylum seeker enters the US illegally, they are still entitled to a hearing of their claim.

Economic migrants are those seeking a better quality of life - and even if they are fleeing devastating poverty, they are not considered refugees and do not have the same protections.

The mid-term elections are less than two weeks away and critics say Mr Trump has used the threat of illegal immigration to fire up his supporters.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-45999610

 

 

[Flashermac]

8 hours ago, Coss said:

You got to laugh at this, they're now calling him the MAGA bomber.....

The Aventura, Fla., resident's van which was confiscated by police was covered in a number of pro-Trump and Republican images. A “CNN sucks” images could also be seen; CNN’s N.Y.C. bureau was the co-target of two of the letter bombs that were addressed to James Clapper and John Brennan.....

 

He's from Brooklyn, but he claims to be a Seminole Indian. He also hates gays, but he works with male strippers. WTF?

 

[Steve]

I'm failing to see the level of "danger" and attention on Fox News given to this caravan. These caravans aren't new for a start and they are likely coming to a certain point. Okay, so we have personnel there to either stop, process, etc, these people. 

Really, what is the alarmist 'invasion' narrative that is elevating the event to a national crisis? 

[Flashermac]

The suspicion is why it's happening so close to the election. If it hadn't been for the timing, I expect there would be less anger or "fear".

...

" The Obama administration faced a surge in arrivals from Central America, mostly women and children, at the U.S.-Mexico border in 2014. The numbers forced the administration to set up emergency shelters and a family detention center in Texas. The administration also was criticized for some of the steps it took to stem the surge."

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/who-s-behind-migrant-caravan-drew-trump-s-ire-n862566