Usa Thread

[Coss]

Foresight - indubitable - you have

[cavanami]

5 hours ago, Coss said:

The Huckery Sanders doctored video, side by side with the real one, (Huckery got hers from infowars)

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/donald-trumps-america/108472110/white-house-shares-doctored-video-to-support-punishment-of-cnn-journalist

 

"I'm kinda like 'meh' on these protests. Vote and win a friggin election is how you protest. If either enough people didn't get out to vote or too many people want the opposite, then it is what it is. "  yep, but for us couch surfers, it's the opening act before the main game.

If the protest is big enough that is... If it's six ugly students, then, not so much ...

The video was zoomed in and slowed down to clearly show the incident....not "doctored"...increases the accuracy.

[cavanami]

Analysis from a former legal prosecutor.

Acosta the Accoster Coverage and Fake News Are Destroying Our Republic and You Must Turn Them Off!

 

[Coss]

Is that the infowars stuff too?

[Coss]

[cavanami]

19 minutes ago, Coss said:

Is that the infowars stuff too?

No Coss, just the FACTS.

[Steve]

The White House press corp has traditionally been a very tight knit select group. No matter what ideology their media sources leaned to, they traditionally were all on a first name basis, knew the first names of each other's spouses, shared resources, shared contacts, etc. It seems like a lot of people on air but its a fairly small group given how difficult it is to be part of this group, given the thousands of news sources out there. 

There was a time that ALL of them would have threaten to boycott the press briefings if they felt the 4th estate was being violated. The press made threats to the government during the '70s when it was discovered the CIA was masquerading as press in countries and thereby putting all the legitimate press in danger. 

Traditionally, the press has always seen any intrusion on the right to a free press as a non partisan issue. This isn't a violation of the constitution. The white house has every right to ban whomever they want. Traditionally though, this was always a trigger for the press as an institution. 

As we can see, the only other President to do so, in any manner close to this was Nixon and his reasons weren't honorable. For people who back Trump, I would caution again, the precedence. There may be a time when a Democrat or left demagogue does the same thing. Upholding just traditions and protocols protects the future as well as the present. 

https://www.abc10.com/article/news/local/trump-not-the-only-president-to-ban-media-outlets-from-the-white-house/103-414543179

However, banned media outlets don't necessarily get their "hard passes" revoked. To get a press pass to the briefing room, reporters go through a process of approval.

First, the reporter needs to be approved by the Standing Committee of Correspondents, an association of reporters which approve press passes for Congress, according to Joshua Keating at Foreign Policy.

Reporters must also verify the credibility of the outlet for which they work and go through a Secret Service background check. Once a reporter is granted a pass, they can renew it every year without having to go through the approval process, Keating said.

According to Keating, it's unheard of for a journalist to be suspended or barred over the quality of their reporting or behavior. The White House rarely pulls passes unless there's a security threat or an unusual circumstance.

George Condon, a longtime White House reporter and former President of the White House Correspondent's Association said he knows of "no instance of any newspaper having its [White House] credentials pulled" since the correspondents' association was founded in 1914, according to Smithsonian.com.

But just because the White House historically hasn't made a habit of revoking hard press passes, it doesn't mean presidents and their administration haven't banned media outlets from events and press briefings.

Like Mr. Trump, President Richard Nixon started a notorious war with the media. Nixon banned the Washington Post from the White House after the newspaper broke the Watergate scandal.

As heard in an audio recording, Nixon went as far as to threaten to fire his press secretary, Ron Ziegler, if he ever let a Post reporter into a briefing, according to the Smithsonian.

 

[cavanami]

When has the White House press corp ever acted in a manner like was seen during the Acosta incident?

Did they do this to Obama? Bush? etc.

Acosta acted like an ass and got busted for it. Today, you are a cool person if you act out against Trump? time to be civil and polite.

 

[Steve]

 

[Steve]

A quick google got me a few more. There has never been a President who liked the press. I have read pretty much every one of Woodwards bios on Presidents and without question, 'how to deal with a hostile press' was in every single one. 

If we are honest we always feel the press isn't tough enough on politicians we don't like and too tough on the ones we don't like. It's not in the press'  interest to seem too cozy to a President. At least in the mainstream press. It's traditional they appear as neutral as possible. The only way in the 'old days' you knew where a newspaper was truly were 1. their Op Ed pieces and 2. Their endorsement for races. 3. They were owned by a person or family who were publicly one party or ideology

The leading paper of a city or state almost always reflects the ideology of that area. The Arizona Republic is going to endorse whatever Republican runs for President and the LA Times will always endorse the Democrat.