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https://www.businessinsider.com/us-allies-abandoning-trump-iran-qasem-soleimani-attack-alone-2020-1

The United States' main allies are abandoning Trump as his threats to world leaders backfire

https://www.businessinsider.com/uk-abandoning-trump-iran-us-withdraw-leadership-world-qassem-soleiman2020-1

The UK is abandoning its alliance with Trump as the United States 'withdraws from its leadership around the world'

 
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There has always been what is termed a 'special relationship' between America and the UK. I recall an interview with Cameron and he said that he was shocked at the information that both high commands would share. Information that he would otherwise deem national secrets that shouldn't be shared even with allies but it showed him that the alliance was deeper than he imagined it to be. 

Thanks Trump, for killing that relationship. Hopefully its not irreparable and a future president can mend the fences but as it stands now and I have not seen any posts to contradict a prior post I said where America has NO RELIABLE ALLIES and we have estranged ALL our traditional allies. We have none. We are alone. Israel may be cited but  is only interested in using us to instigate a war on Iran and to give them cover to fully suppress the Palestinians but they aren't stupid. They are fully aware Trump is an antisemite despite having a Jewish son in law and converted daughter. He knows that the core of his support are alt right white supremacists who are virulently anti semites ("Jews will not replace us" chanted at Charlottesville and called 'fine people' by Trump). They know the only reasons Trump is moving the embassy to Jerusalem is to coddle evangelicals and at the behest of his son in law. And such a move removes America as an arbiter of any peace negotiations in that area. We have decidedly come out on one side. No longer acting as impartial middlemen for both sides.

He is literally seen as a buffoon and thereby dangerous by all the Europeans, Canada, Mexico.  

We have no friends. We are isolated politically  (Trump's fault) and also economically (not Trump's fault). Many of our major trading partners, where we were once their biggest trading partners or major partners, now have China as their main trade partners: Japan, Korea, Brazil, Philippines,  Australia, India, many, many others. Trump has worsen any chance of reversing it. We have pushed them farther to rely on China. 

But the average Trump voter either doesn't know or care. It's a go down with the ship mentality. As long as their view and their man is in power, it's an acceptable casualty. The left has been so demonized to the point that literally a deal with the devil is better because in their minds, the Democrats are worse than the devil himself. 25 years of Fox News, Alex Jones, fringe right pundits and a party that stokes every bigoted dog whistle has come to fruition. 

The irony is that the Democrat establishment is serving some of the same 'gods' they are: Wall Street, big Pharma, etc. 

This is China's century unless they can't emerge from the impending crash from a bubble Trump made bigger that had grown since 2008.  But of course, the above articles will be dismissed as 'fake news'. 

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Shocker, a Trump endorsed Congresswoman during her campaign thinks the impeachment process is rigged. I'm astounded. (sorry, sarcasm alert....lol). 

There were still Republican Senators willing to vote no against Nixon. She has as much credibility to argue her 'so called facts' as Don Jr. She is one of those who would find him innocent if he actually shot someone on Fifth Avenue in NY. 

Doug Jones, Alabama democrat senator is probably the only Dem who will vote no and an Alabama democrat is much farther to the right than a NY Republican to put that state in its proper context. He is no liberal. Far, far from it and his no vote will be in part that his state is wholly behind Trump. That said, I'd take his view with more credibility than a member of the president's own party that he endorsed because she ran as being one of his biggest supporter. 

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The impeachment trial is a joke. The media tries to paint it as drama. "What will happen?" We know what will ultimately happen. Trump will be found innocent. If I were to offer Dems some advice is actually say it. Use it for November. The case shouldn't be about trying to get a conviction. That won't happen unless you have a secret vote and that won't happen. Present a case that you can use for in adverts from now till November to punish these very senators up for election as well as to motivate the base to vote. 

The trial has long been decided. The Lincoln Project, the conservatives against Trump are doing a much better job than the Dems. This trail is about convincing the American people DESPITE the verdict. The trial, if the Dems had any ounce of political savvy should be about the hearts and minds of the masses they are in a corrupt administration and their vote is the only answer since the Republicans will not honor the constitution. 

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It amazes me how Trump and Republicans get away with the 'economy is great' narrative. Shocking. All of us have been though boom times. All of us have seen a few boom years in the '80s and certainly the '90s. These times have no such feeling on a par with those years. 

40% of the nation doesn't have $400. How is that the nation's best economy? Well over 1 trillion dollars in car loan, credit card and student loan debt each. How the hell is that a good economy? Record pace and amount of national debt. How is that a booming economy? Record amount of corporate loans, nearly 20 trillion, some companies have debt that dwarfs major countries. At&T alone has over 180 billion dollars of debt. That is more than the GNP of most countries. How the eff is that a booming economy? 

The unemployment rate gets trotted out using the same stats and methodology Trump demonized (rightfully so) during his campaign and to call him out of it, the media will have to say Obama's numbers were wrong. And they can't do that. The cost of living, especially rent has gone through the roof. Its almost doubled, even in bad areas. However, wage increase has been stagnant at best. People are working second jobs (Uber, eCommerice-etsy, eBay, etc., ) just to survive.You may be one of them. If not, you know people who are. I have friends and family back in the states making above 60k..even 80k and they are struggling. They are also scared. They will lose everything if there is a downturn in the economy. A lot of Trump's supporters are struggling and its this weird reasoning that they dive further into zealotry. The guy in his van that killed people in Florida, inspired by Trump was pretty much living out of that van. The Trump supporters who are struggling are using cognitive dissonance to blame everyone else, the deep state, the media, the liberals for why they are struggling, despite the Trump having de facto control of 3 out of 4 areas (White House, Senate and Supreme Court) of the government. In their minds, unless Trump has full dictatorial powers, including the media, ,he can't 'get the job done'. 

 

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/tucker-carlson-trump-bernie-economy-081700298.html

 

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10 hours ago, chocolat steve said:

He is literally seen as a buffoon and thereby dangerous by all the Europeans, Canada, Mexico.

let me rephrase that :

He is literally seen as a buffoon and thereby dangerous by all the World.

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12 hours ago, cavanami said:

Coming out of New Zealand...where they do a crappy job of vetting "charities"? Australia threw the Clinton false charity out!!! Guess Kiwis' are no too bright!!!

You are fishing for Trumpanzee points where there are none, here is an article on the matter by the NBR, a well respected source of news. This matter is some years old and the little controversy there was, is over. https://www.nbr.co.nz/article/taxpayers-will-continue-funding-clinton-foundation’s-flagship-jw-p-194939 

And when you've taken a moment to read it, you can understand long form prose can you? you'll remember that Hilary Clinton is not president of the USA.  

This topic does not belong in the USA thread, the NZ thread is where it started and you've co-mingled it here. Keep the NZ stuff in it's thread and the USA stuff in the USA thread, you confused old {insert your own age appropriate insult here}.

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