Usa Thread

[Steve]

Uglier then. In the summers of 1967 and 1968, there was open exchange of fire between the police/national guard and inner city blacks in scores of cities around the country. Makes anything we have seen from Ferguson, Baltimore, etc, look like a church social. There were 1000s of people with Vietnam war experience. There were ambushes, sniper fire, military tactics used by these guys. It was very, very bad. 

 

[Steve]

Detroit was one of the worst as well a Newark, about 100 cities in total in various states of uprising. 

 

[Steve]

Now fast forward to today, you have cities like LA, and Chicago with tens of thousands of black and latino gangs who are well armed and have shot more people exponentially far more than the cops ever have, add in the 1000s of former Iraq and Afghanistan vets in those areas. The vast majority have extensive search and destroy experience. The guy who set up sniper fire on the cops in Dallas was a war vet in the middle east. One person took out several cops. Expand that to hundreds? 

Again, it can and likely will get very, very ugly. The government will eventually win...but will lose with the billions in destruction, the economies will be at standstill. Also, the 1967 and 1968 riots were in the north. Today it will be in the south as well, Atlanta, Houston, Miami, Charlotte, Memphis, etc.

Lastly, those riots in the 60s was almost exclusively black. From what we see of the uprisings today its far more diverse. So you have latinos and millennial progressive whites involved, plus agent provocateurs from the fringe right who are itching to start their 'Rahowa' (racial holy war) as they often term it in their chat rooms and see it as a chance to put to practice what they do out in the woods at target practice. 

[Steve]

The world has spoken

What has never been discussed in America is that there was immense pressure on the America in the Civil Rights era. The young in England were very vocal to their government for not doing more to call out America. Also, there was a huge fear in the government that they would lose out in the international community. What has been pretty much excluded from the road to the voting rights act is that at the time there was a cold war. There were scores of new countries, specifically in Africa and SE Asia into the UN. The USSR was telling these countries that they never owned slaves or had colonies and that they shouldn't side with a nation that is oppressing people that looked like them. Starting with Ghana in 1954, many African nations became independent as well as the Caribbean (Jamaica, etc.) So a whole lot of new votes in the UN as well as spheres of influence. LBJ knew this all too well. The southern states didn't because it was only local to them but the government had to look globally for obvious reasons. 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/01/world/george-floyd-global-protests-intl/index.html

 

[Steve]

Trump says if the states didn't stop it or can't or won't he will dispatch the military and solve it per his own words. 

A few things. What happened to the right of the states? That's what his 'very nice people' waving confederate flags says. Second, we have a leader that doesn't know the constitution. You can not dispatch the US military domestically. Any 8th grade B student who has a civics class knows this. 

[buffalo_bill]

Trump with a Bible giving the religious man. The most obscene setup so far.

 

[Steve]

 

[Steve]

I've NEVER, EVER, EVER known anyone who says they are born again, or the bible is their favorite book, who can't rattle off verses. Again, I'm the son of a baptist Deacon, who hasn't picked up a bible in ages. But can rattle off several simple verses. 

He's full of shit. As always. 

[buffalo_bill]

 

The latest two comedy successes from the White House. Emperor Trump´s grand public appearance heading for the sacred place for his daily prayers supported by holy music from heaven. He should try hovering over the alley next time.

[radioman]

Thai Enquirer has a nice piece today 😀

Actually quite fact laden despite the intention being elsewhere.

http://www.thaienquirer.com/13861/foreign-affairs-unrest-continues-for-a-seventh-day-in-former-british-colony/

Foreign Affairs: Unrest continues for a seventh day in former British colony

Unrest and protests continued for a seventh straight day in the former British colony of the United States as the government vowed to use its military to end the demonstrations, US media reported on Tuesday.

The protests began in the small province of Minnesota, located in the agrarian ‘Middle West,’ over the killing of an ethnic minority by state security forces.

Protests led by the minority ‘black’ community have erupted throughout the country with the minority group calling for equal rights and better treatment from the government. Protesters have set fire to government installations and looted buildings throughout the country as clashes with security forces continue. The security forces have tried to disperse the protesters with tear gas, rubber bullets and batons but to no avail.

US President Donald Trump, who was ‘elected’ in 2016 despite the majority of votes going to his rival candidate, vowed in a speech to bring in the military to end the protests.

“I will deploy the United States military and quickly solve the problem for them,” Trump said in a national address.

Trump used the opportunity to walk to a religious temple in the national capital Washington DC to proclaim his religious affiliation. Holding a Christian bible in his hand, Trump declared the US “a great nation.”

Religious Fundamentalism and persecution of minorities

Religious fundamentalism and minority suppression has long been a problem in the former British colony.

The United States has had a long history of suppressing and persecuting its various ethnic minorities since the country gained its independence from the United Kingdom in 1776.

The treatment of its indigenous ‘Native Americans,’ its imported Asian and Black communities, and its Hispanic community has long been a source of friction.

American black minority groups were under a program similar to South Africa’s Apartheid policy until as recently as 1964. Today, the ethnic black community is still detained and killed with impunity by the state security forces and black Americans make up the majority of those incarcerated under the country’s archaic judicial system.

Religion also plays a major role in governance with religious beliefs separating key state organs including the country’s highest court where many social laws are passed based on the justices personally held religious convictions.

[Disclaimer: Native Americans is in quotations because it is a blanket term used by the ruling class of the US to call the country’s original inhabitants before the Anglo-European invasion. The ‘Native Americans’ are comprised of thousands of tribes, all with their own culture, language and traditions.]