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[cavanami]

2 hours ago, buffalo_bill said:

 

Thou speaketh the truth.

An ape´s an ape, a varlet´s a varlet though they be clad in silk or scarlet.   ( Poem stolen by BuBi )

Such a shame that so many don't see the corruption of the deep state and take the easy way out, blame Trump.

Shows the stupidity of sooo many people!!!!!

[Steve]

There is massive corruption. Trump became part of it. In fact, made it worse. "Such a shame that so many don't see the corruption...."  

To others, Sanders was possibly the only one who was not corrupt to any substantial degree. One or two of the Republicans in the 2016 primaries...maybe. For the Dems, 2 maybe 3 this election in the primaries. 

[Steve]

I hope this doesn't become a trend. But it also illustrates just how bad 45 is. Nixon is turning in his grave out of happiness. He may end up not being the worst president in the last 100 yeras. 

[Steve]

When the respected voices of your own party are calling you out. It's more than bad. 

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/george-will-donald-trump-end-presidency-prediction-065515965.html

[Steve]

The scary thing isn't that Trump would do it. He's fully capable of it, no surprise there. The scary thing is Trumpers would be all for it. No issue at all. If you can look aside at kids and babies in cages, there really isn't anything much you will say no to. You don't have a line at that point. Despie the fact his very own FBI dismissed that antifa was big and organized and causing riots. Also bear in mind, America's high command in the military is overwhelmingly Republican. Not many Democrats among them. 

Why 780 retired generals and former national security leaders spoke out against Trump

 

 

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/why-780-retired-generals-and-former-national-security-leaders-spoke-out-against-trump-204428356.html

In the speech, Trump proclaimed himself “your president of law and order,” and claimed the protests had been hijacked by “professional anarchists, violent mobs, arsonists, looters, criminals, rider rioters, antifa and others” intent on “domestic terror.” News cameras showed some of the hundreds of National Guard troops from around the country that had been sent to reinforce the D.C. Guard, and there were reports that 1,600 active-duty troops were on high alert just outside the capital. Privately, Trump was threatening to invoke the Insurrection Act in order to send thousands more active-duty troops onto the nation’s streets in a show of dominant military force, criticizing weak governors and mayors around the country for not doing more to forcefully stamp out the protests.

[Steve]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-camp-denies-hired-armed-150100289.html

Trump camp denies it hired armed men at Florida polling place who claimed they were sent by campaign

[Coss]

2 hours ago, chocolat steve said:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-camp-denies-hired-armed-150100289.html

Trump camp denies it hired armed men at Florida polling place who claimed they were sent by campaign

55555 if it wasn't so serious...

Three  possibilities:

1 - the simple one, they were Trump sourced supporters sent by the Trump

2 - they are Dem sourced masquerading as Trumpanzees, hoping to throw dark and shade on the Trump, a false flag action

3 - they are Trumpanzee sourced and they knew, that they would throw dark and shade on the Trump and were willing to do so, to get their moment in the sun and to help get rid of Trump who they are heartily sick of, for besmirching their red-neck (modern meaning) ways, with his pandering and vote begging support...

[Coss]

He said he'd release it, 10 points for following through ::

Trump walks out of 60 minute interview - and  - releases it before it shows on Sunday ('merica time) (I wonder if the Trump's release has been edited by the Whitehouse?)

excerpts from https://news.yahoo.com/trump-calls-for-obamacare-repeal-complains-about-media-in-leaked-60-minutes-interview-180253102.html

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In an unusual move he had been teasing for days, President Trump on Thursday released his recent, unaired interview with the CBS News program “60 Minutes,” in which he complains repeatedly about the questions he is asked before abruptly ending the discussion. 

“Look at the bias, hatred and rudeness on behalf of ‘60 Minutes’ and CBS. Tonight’s anchor, Kristen Welker, is far worse,” Trump tweeted late Thursday morning while posting the roughly 37-minute interview with CBS News reporter Lesley Stahl.

“You’re OK with some tough questions?” Stahl asked before the interview started. “No, I’m not,” Trump replied. “You don’t ask Biden tough questions.”

Trump later said, “I wish you would interview Joe Biden like you interview me. When I watch him walk out of a store. He’s in the midst of a scandal. His family is corrupt. He’s a corrupt politician. And he’s walking with an ice cream. And the question the media asks him, ‘What kind of ice cream?’ You’re like Big Tech, you’re protecting him.”

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When asked about the pandemic, which has so far killed more than 220,000 people in the U.S., Trump acknowledged that coronavirus cases are rising, but attributed the surge to an increase in testing. 

“If we didn’t do testing, cases would be way down,” he said.

“We do more testing than any country in the world by far,” Trump told Stahl. “If we did half the testing, we’d have half the cases.”

“I’m not against masks at all,” Trump said, although he’s repeatedly mocked Biden for wearing a mask, including at the first debate just before the president was hospitalized for COVID-19. “I say ‘wear em’,’ but I also say ‘socially distance,’ I say all the things.”

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Trump’s belief that the media is unfair to him came up frequently, particularly when Trump rattled off shaky claims about his presidential campaign being spied on in 2016.

“There’s no real evidence of that,” Stahl said. “Of course there is,” Trump replied.

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Trump also attempted to discuss Biden’s son, Hunter, in particular a disputed New York Post story involving a laptop that supposedly contained incriminating emails. Trump and Stahl argue at length about whether the information on the laptop could be “verified.” 

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Stahl pressed Trump on his long-promised health care plan, which has yet to materialize with just two weeks to go before the election. Trump insisted that much of the plan has been completed, and said he hoped the Supreme Court soon overturns the Affordable Care Act. 

“It is developed. It’s fully developed. It’s going to be announced very soon when we see what happens with Obamacare, which is not good,” Trump said, repeatingthe promise of a new health care he’s made repeatedly during his tenure. “And it will be much less expensive than Obamacare, which is a disaster, and it will take care of people with preexisting conditions.”

When asked about those who would be stranded without health care after an ACA repeal, Trump said, “We will make a deal and we will have a great health care plan with less expensive and a much better plan.”

Trump also accused Biden of wanting to move those on private insurance to “socialized medicine,” but in the Democratic primary, Biden campaigned explicitly against a single-payer program that would provide government-funded health care for all Americans. Biden is instead proposing a “public option” that would allow people the option of buying into a government plan.

Trump pointed to the plan he rolled out last month that he said would protect people with preexisting conditions from losing coverage. But White House officials said at the time that his “protections” for preexisting conditions would not actually be law should the ACA be repealed, but was instead a “defined statement of U.S. policy.” 

If the ACA is overturned by the Supreme Court, a “defined statement of policy” does not provide a legal mechanism to prevent insurance companies from refusing coverage to those with preexisting conditions, or charging so much as to make it unaffordable in practice.  

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During the interview, Trump also said he wasn’t familiar with reports about the alleged plan to kidnap Whitmer, a Democrat he’s criticized repeatedly for her response to the pandemic.

“I don’t know anything about the plot, but I can tell you this: it was our Justice Department who was helping her,” Trump said. “My justice department if you call it that…People aren’t liking her so much.”

Even as he criticized her and called her lockdown measures “disgraceful,” Trump denied he had “gone after” Whitmer. The president then said Democratic governors in the swing states of Pennsylvania and North Carolina should also open up their states, but “carefully,” stating that their lockdown measures intended to slow the spread are a “disservice.”

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When an offscreen staffer noted that Stahl had five minutes left with Trump, the president then ended the interview. “I think we have enough of an interview here,” Trump said. 

In a statement, CBS News said it still plans to air the interview on Sunday.

“The White House’s unprecedented decision to disregard their agreement with CBS News and release their footage will not deter 60 Minutes from providing its full, fair and contextual reporting which presidents have participated in for decades,” the statement said.

During the interview, Stahl asked Trump why he seeks to discredit the media. In 2018, Stahl said that Trump admitted to her during a 2016 interview that he tries to discredit the media so people won’t believe negative stories about him.

“You’ve discredited yourself,” Trump replied. 

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12 year old girl in the school yard - "no you did"...

 

[Coss]

And of course every day, there's more and more, it just keeps getting better...

some really tasty titbits ::

From FOX Pressure builds for NBC's Kristen Welker to address Hunter Biden at debate: ‘This is a moment of truth'   - this is all they got.

Newsweek Trump's Authoritarian Slogans Aren't Just Shocking. They're Actually Dangerous  - worth a read

Some of us will know Arstechnica   Hacker says he correctly guessed Trump’s Twitter password—it was “maga2020!”   - of course...  

and - White House Deputy Press Secretary Judd Deere also denied Gevers' claim, telling Forbes, "This is absolutely not true, but we don't comment on security procedures around the president's social media accounts."

To which the only possible comment is: "why are you commenting now?" - only the best people...

 

[Coss]

~ 7 hrs to the debate, if it happens, going out to buy some beer    🍺 

` the commission announced the muting of microphones to start each of Thursday's debate segments.

Under the new rules, Biden and Trump will each have two minutes of uninterrupted time at the beginning of each 15-minute segment. Afterward, they can discuss issues with each other with both microphones open.

The Trump campaign has said without evidence that debate organizers are biased in favor of Biden. Still, in a statement following the new rule change, Trump campaign manager Bill Stepien said: "President Trump is committed to debating Joe Biden regardless of last minute rule changes from the biased commission in their latest attempt to provide advantage to their favored candidate."