Flashermac Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 Hanson again ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coss Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 How Donald Trump's grandfather arrived in US as an unaccompanied minor. https://www.stuff.co...companied-minor https://twitter.com/...erp|twgr^author So Hillary/Russia needs to be investigated. But Trump/Russia is OK? https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/105092770/trump-summit-with-putin-to-take-place-in-neutral-nation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted June 29, 2018 Report Share Posted June 29, 2018 How Donald Trump's grandfather arrived legally in US as an unaccompanied minor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coss Posted June 29, 2018 Report Share Posted June 29, 2018 That's true, it is also true that persons claiming asylum, when they arrive in the USA, are doing so legally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted June 29, 2018 Report Share Posted June 29, 2018 Like hell they are, not when they sneak across the border instead of reporting to an immigration point. "The majority of applications for resettlement to the United States are made to U.S. embassies in foreign countries and are reviewed by employees of the State Department. In these cases, refugee status has normally already been reviewed by the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees and recognized by the host country. For these refugees, the U.S. has stated its preferred order of solutions are: (1) repatriation of refugees to their country of origin, (2) integration of the refugees into their country of asylum and, last, (3) resettlement to a third country, such as the U.S., when the first two options are not viable." The right way: The wrong way: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coss Posted June 29, 2018 Report Share Posted June 29, 2018 Flash, your argument is correct. But I suggest that the separation of children, from their asylum seeker parents, at the border, by duly authorised agents of the US Government, is not being done, where said asylum seeker parents, have sneaked into the USA illegally. i.e. not at places, where there are duly authorised agents, of the US Government, with clipboards and munching donuts and coffee. ergo :: the said asylum seeker parents, are doing it properly, by presenting themselves, to duly authorised agents of the US Government, whom are the people that do the separating... For the clarity of my own mind - If the asylum seekers cross, where there is no border control office and personnel, they are unlikely to encounter USA officials, and theretofore unlikely to have their children separated from them. If the asylum seekers cross, where there is a border office and personnel, that's where they encounter USA officials, and if applying for asylum, are likely to have their children separated from them. Of course, I might be living in a reality, that denies the truth of the matter, and if this is the case, I apologise, because I do not support the illegal entry to a country. My original point, was that turning up to a legitimate border crossing, and applying for asylum to the US government personnel there, is legal. If, the largest number of asylum seekers that the USA encounters, have already made application to U.S. embassies in foreign countries, good and well, but that situation, by definition, suggests that there are a number, small compared to the majority, but a number, never the less, who present legally at the border. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coss Posted June 29, 2018 Report Share Posted June 29, 2018 This aggregation of head lines is an interesting read https://whatthefuckjusthappenedtoday.com/ including such gems as :: The Trump administration ran a family separation "pilot program" months before the announcement of the "zero tolerance" policy. At least 1,768 children were separated from their parents between October 2016 and February 2018; it is not known how many of these separations took place after Trump took office because the Department of Homeland Security will not release month-by-month figures. An additional 2,342 children have been separated since May 5, bringing the total number of separated kids to more than 4,100. https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/immigration-border-crisis/trump-admin-ran-pilot-program-separating-migrant-families-2017-n887616 More to upset the Trump supporter at the link - https://whatthefuckjusthappenedtoday.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 Indian Country remembers. This is not the first administration to order the forced separation of families. “The act of ripping children away from their parents is nothing new for the United States. Separating children and their families to ‘kill the Indian to save the man’ by sending Native children to boarding schools, and doing it in the name of religion, is one generation removed from my family,†wrote Peggy Flanagan on Twitter. Flanagan, an Indigenous member of the White Earth Nation of Ojibwe, is a candidate for lieutenant governor in Minnesota. “Trump’s ‘zero tolerance policy’ is nothing more than a clear violation of human rights. We must learn from history. We must stand with immigrants and refugees.†https://www.pri.org/...n-their-parents In the 19th century, the Canadian government believed it was responsible for educating and caring for aboriginal people in Canada. It thought their best chance for success was to learn English and adopt Christianity and Canadian customs. Ideally, they would pass their adopted lifestyle on to their children, and native traditions would diminish, or be completely abolished in a few generations. https://www.cbc.ca/n...canada-1.702280 Official government estimates are that between one in ten and one in three indigenous Australian children were forcibly taken from their families and communities between 1910, and 1970, affecting all regions of the country. https://en.wikipedia...len_Generations It must be part of our common Anglo-Saxon heritage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coss Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 Yeppidy, same same in NZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 It's time the Anglo-Saxons went back where they came from... and returned Britain to its rightful inhabitants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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