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On 11/18/2019 at 3:14 AM, chocolat steve said:

The NY Times best seller list can be artificially influenced

 

here y'go

 

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As you can see it's an obvious Whitehouse fake, as they've spelt 'political' wrong.

 

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10 hours ago, buffalo_bill said:

The scale on my US wisdom-meter went up last night due to signs of hope from Louisiana.

They elected a conservative Democrat. "The fact is that Edwards won in Louisiana not because of Trump but because Edwards has been a popular governor with an approval rating north of 50%. He had a strong appeal to the black community in particular."

CNN

And Trump needs to worry about black voters, since his support among them is quite low.

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US election 2020: Democrats respond to Obama's warning

Democratic presidential candidates have given their reaction to a warning by former President Barack Obama against moving too far left in politics.

Mr Obama's rare intervention into the Democratic race was a talking point at campaign events on Saturday.

Some Democrats called for unity, while others defended their policy agenda.

Speaking at a fundraising forum in Washington, the former president - considered a moderate - cautioned candidates against pursuing polices that were not "rooted in reality".

Mr Obama, who was in office from 2009 to 2017, said "ordinary Americans" didn't want to "completely tear down the system".

"This is still a country that is less revolutionary than it is interested in improvement," Mr Obama said to an audience of wealthy donuts on Friday.

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Although none of the Democratic candidates explicitly rebuked Mr Obama's comments, Mr Sanders mounted the strongest defence of his policy platform.

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Elizabeth Warren, another left-leaning frontrunner, struck a more conciliatory tone, choosing to praise Mr Obama's trademark health care policy, the Affordable Care Act.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50452177

 

BBC analysis:

Obama has studiously avoided weighing in on the large field of Democratic candidates vying for the party's 2020 presidential nomination. Behind closed doors on Friday, however, he tipped his hand a bit.

Sanders is preaching political revolution. Warren is urging "big systemic change". The former president clearly had those two frontrunners in mind when he suggested such aggressive talk risks alienating the kind of middle-of-the-road voters necessary to defeat Donald Trump next year.

This shouldn't come as too much of a surprise. Obama, despite being labelled a radical socialist by his conservative critics, governed as a pragmatic moderate. That created a fair amount of consternation of among progressives in his party, who thought he was one of their own when elected. Some view his presidency as a missed opportunity to enact fundamental structural reforms in the wake of the 2008 economic crisis.

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4 hours ago, Flashermac said:

They elected a conservative Democrat. "The fact is that Edwards won in Louisiana not because of Trump but because Edwards has been a popular governor with an approval rating north of 50%. He had a strong appeal to the black community in particular."

CNN

And Trump needs to worry about black voters, since his support among them is quite low.

I did in fact read about the background of the election results but nonetheless Donald went there and could not turn the current into his direction. I do also know that the Trump approval rate in Louisina is still over 50 %. What I hope for is that the previously respectable Republicans might give up their Trump-slavery and return on the path of at least limited wisdom.

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Edwards followed Republican Indian (India) American Bobby Jindal as governor of Lousiana. Jindal, was an outspoken, tea party type of Republican and routinely spoke out strongly against Obama. He basically broke the state economically. He also didn't accept free medicaid money for the poor of his state as a protest against Obama .Anyway, he actually believed in Reagan style 'trickle down' economy and it broke the state. https://www.newsweek.com/how-bobby-jindal-broke-louisiana-economy-337999

Edwards is popular because he had to clean up Jindal and the Republican legislatures mess which saw it leaving the extremely popular LSU and pride of the state university risk not having enough money to operate. 

Blacks have always voted heavily Democratic since the 60s. Nothing unusual there. While I fully agree Blacks have not gotten much for their loyalty to the Democratic party it can be argued the Republican party is not an alternative due to being perceived as 'at best neglected and sometimes anti Black. Anyway, Edwards only got 30% of the white vote, so he had to make it up elsewhere. The state is roughly 2/3 white. Trump stumping for his opponent likely helped him get a big Black turnout. 

The race was closer than many expected because the state has a surplus now. His opponent, a wealthy business man, labeled Edwards as a tax and spend. Which clearly isn't true if we look at where he took the state economy from huge deficit to a surplus. This election was not about economics but some the things I identified in prior posts. 

 

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Customarily, it would be wrong of Obama to back anyone now. Everyone knows he backs Biden privately but it wouldn't be proper to stump for him during the primaries. Clinton didn't stump for Gore in the primary. Reagan didn't stump for the elder Bush in '82 primary (but Reagan wasn't physically/mentally able to anyone). 

Anyway, there is nothing unusual about a former President staying out of the primary and not getting involved until the people have chosen a candidate. Obama's comment is as close to an endorsement as one can come and could be construed at being improper. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the veiled criticism of Warren and Sanders. 

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There are record turnouts in these elections and record turnouts will not be good for Trump in 2020. If there is a huge turn out he will lose. No question. Part of the reason he won is that turn out was low in various states. I recall Hillary seeing the polls give Ohio a toss up brought in Obama, Jay Z, etc, but it was too little too late. She didn't even visit Michigan, so the Detroit, Flint, etc, vote didn't turn out. 

This time around I think it will be different. Judging by how little Trump won Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania by, a big turnout will make those states a loss. Philadelphia, a Democratic stronghold, went even bluer and farther left with no Republicans making at large city council seats. The Philadelphia suburbs where I finished HS has always been Republican and the recent elections saw Democrats making a lot of ground. That spells big trouble for Trump. 

With impeachment impending, it will hurt him. There will be a lot of stories about his actions that will make some of his casual supporters break ranks but I still say his biggest worry has to be avoiding a full fledged recession before the election. Even if he wins and the recession occurs after, it will likely happen well before the '22 off year elections and that will bring in a huge Democratic surge, possibly having 2/3 of the House and a clear majority of the Senate. A number of Republican incumbents have seen the numbers and decided to retire over the last year or so. 

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"Trump stumping for his opponent likely helped him get a big Black turnout."

I hadn't thought of that. Good point. Actually, Trump is hardly loved by the Republicans, especially since he wasn't one of them until he realised he could never get the Dem nomination. Since he is still surprisingly popular, they will have to support him. If he is not the candidate in 2020, who have they got who could have a real chance against the Dem candidate, unless it's a real fruit loop?

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