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18 hours ago, Coss said:

Trump is already impeached you absolute moron. What you are trying to say, is there will be no removal from office. And that my stupid friend, is dependent on Trump making it through the next 2~3 weeks without losing the plot and going apeshit like one of his followers.

 

Nope. It seems a prez is not impeached until the articles of impeachment have been delivered to the Senate. Nancy is dicking around and hasn't done that yet. Therefore, he has not yet been impeached!  :xmascheer

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51% Agree Impeachment Is ‘Abuse of Power’ By Democrats

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that 51% of Likely U.S. Voters agree with Trump’s statement in a letter to the U.S. House of Representatives before the vote: “This impeachment represents an unprecedented and unconstitutional abuse of power by Democrat lawmakers unequaled in nearly two-and-a-half centuries of American legislative history.”

Similarly, 48% agree with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi when she said, “Our democracy is what is at stake. … The president has engaged in abuse of power, undermining our national security and jeopardizing the integrity of our elections.”

But nearly as many (46%) disagree with Pelosi, compared to the 40% who disagree with Trump’s statement.

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/december_2019/51_agree_impeachment_is_abuse_of_power_by_democrats

 

But who gives a damn what the people think. Do they think politicians really care about them except on election days?

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Less than half of all Americans want Trump ousted post-impeachment: Reuters/Ipsos poll

 

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Less than half of all Americans say President Donald Trump should be removed from office following his impeachment by the U.S. House of Representatives, according to a Reuters/Ipsos opinion poll released on Thursday, presenting a challenge for Democrats who will seek his ouster in a U.S. Senate trial. .

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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment-poll-exclusive/exclusive-less-than-half-of-all-americans-want-trump-ousted-post-impeachment-reuters-ipsos-poll-idUSKBN1YN2LH

Reuters should just shut to f***k up!  :closemouth:

 

 

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1 hour ago, Flashermac said:

Nope. It seems a prez is not impeached until the articles of impeachment have been delivered to the Senate. Nancy is dicking around and hasn't done that yet. Therefore, he has not yet been impeached!  :xmascheer

Actually, that is the theory of one professor. It's not a foregone fact. They held a vote and the vote. That's always been how its been viewed. And thats how history will record it. The splitting hairs and such are Republicans trying yet again to nuance and distort a fact. 

If someone can show me specifically in the Constitution where it says its not an impeachment until the Senate gets it, I'd be more than willing to concede the point. Its not a trial until they receive it is more accurate. He is impeached. I've yet to hear a sitting House member, Senator or Supreme court justice say otherwise. 

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Blatantly disrespecting the process by showing zero integrity and fairness by openly saying you will coordinate the indictment with the defense as you are overseeing the trial is should have McConnell censured at the very least. It won't happen but he should be. One could even with a bit more of a stretch say the same about Pelosi  delaying giving the articles to the Senate but its more of a stretch. Unchartered territory. 

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