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11 minutes ago, chocolat steve said:

The Bernie article about socialism is a 'meh', article. It has no bearing on his reputation. Bernie has raised the 2nd most money of either party candidate with NO CORPORATE donations. The media does not tell that story. That is HUGE obviously. Trump, and most of the Dems except Warren have accepted a huge amounts of PAC money and big money donors, etc. 

The well over 100 million dollars Bernie has raised with small donations is unprecedented and is being under reported because Faux..er..ah..I mean Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, are all part of big corporations that buy off both parties. 

That is why they are scared as hell about Bernie because he is proving (along with AOC and the squad) that not only can you win without taking bribes you can raise just as much money doing it. 

Republicans don't have that ability. The first Republican candidate who can manage that will be able to use that as a platform to rise. 

So, trying to paint Bernie as fake or whatever, even if its true, is a non starter. It's falling on deaf ears. He came out of the Warren, sexist thing recently getting even more support. Warren lost that PR battle. Trump got impeached going after the wrong candidate, like the dunce he is. Bernie, not Biden was the real threat. He will lose against Bernie, and lose fairly big. This will depend in part on Bernie's running mate. If I had to suggest a person for Bernie, I'd say Julian Castro, or a moderate woman but not Warren. 

CS, tell the whole true story

Out of the Democrats who have announced their third-quarter fundraising totals, Sen. Bernie Sanders leads the pack with $34.5 million followed by former Mayor Pete Buttigieg with $24.7 million.

https://www.businessinsider.com/how-much-money-2020-democrats-candidates-have-raised-fundraising-2019-4

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The new USMCA which is the new NAFTA, is significant in one main thing that is never discussed. NAFTA basically stopped illegal immigration from Mexico.And it did so at the expense of the American blue collar worker. Especially Michigan auto workers. There is a net flow of people going back to Mexico than coming. Why? There is no economic need to be in California any longer. The jobs in Mexico have gotten so good there is no need. A poor Mexican can now get a solid middle class job in Mexico than come to California or Texas and be solidly working poor. 

When Trump made his initial speech about illegal immigration from Mexico he couldn't have been more wrong. The illegal immigration is coming from south of Mexico as the migrant issue showed. Immigrants since the founding of America have come for one reason and one reason only with few exceptions, MONEY. The initial religious zealots in New England and Mid Atlantic states are one of the rare exceptions (slavery being another but that is still about money) as well as others. Everyone else came for the money. The Irish, Germans, Slavs, Russians, Sicilians, pretty much every American of European ancestry and the irony is the progeny of those Americans are now demonizing central Americans for doing the same thing that their forefathers did. 

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3 minutes ago, cavanami said:

CS, tell the whole true story

Out of the Democrats who have announced their third-quarter fundraising totals, Sen. Bernie Sanders leads the pack with $34.5 million followed by former Mayor Pete Buttigieg with $24.7 million.

https://www.businessinsider.com/how-much-money-2020-democrats-candidates-have-raised-fundraising-2019-4

What 'true' story? 

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38 minutes ago, cavanami said:

You said: " The well over 100 million dollars Bernie has raised with small donations..."

Source for this?

as my source shows $34.5M

https://www.businessinsider.com/how-much-money-2020-democrats-candidates-have-raised-fundraising-2019-4

Wow this is exceptional.  You lie than use facts to back up your supposed claims.  I'm astonished.

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6 hours ago, cavanami said:

You said: " The well over 100 million dollars Bernie has raised with small donations..."

Source for this?

as my source shows $34.5M

https://www.businessinsider.com/how-much-money-2020-democrats-candidates-have-raised-fundraising-2019-4

First i'm in LA. I can't respond immediately, 2nd the amount is for the CALENDAR QUARTERr. He raised 87 million in 2019. He's well on his way over 13 million to date as well as monies he had prior to running prior to his announcement in February 2019. Its called 'carry over'. Bernie had monies already (same with Warren) that were carried over to his campaign. 

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