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The Weird World of People Pretending to Be Doctors and Getting Away with It

It's called 'prestige fraud', and it's terrifying.

 

These people are always seeking approval from others.

In Australia, fake psychiatrist Nora Zakardas famously spent years conducting medical examinations, giving out prescriptions, and advising friends and family members, despite possessing zero qualifications in the field. Zakardas was able to fool even her own doctor, who allowed the con artist to sit in on her examinations and access the medical records of other patients. Eventually, it occurred to a suspicious friend that it might be worth ringing up the medical board and checking whether Zacardas was registered.

The Australian Health Practitioner Regulation Agency tells Broadly that since 2014, it has successfully prosecuted no less than 17 unregistered practitioners. It currently has eight pending matters before the courts.

Monash University's Dr. Danny Sullivan is an actual-qualified psychiatrist and a specialist in criminal fraud. He says successful fake doctors all follow similar patterns: "They'll restrict themselves to a couple of procedures or activities that other people won't necessarily determine that they're inept in, and gradually as they develop the bravado or the skill to pass themselves off more effectively, they might then move to try things that are more ambitious," he tells Broadly.

"So, if they're successful, it's because they've started off as reasonably humble, and then only gradually ramped up what they're doing."

The deeper you dig into the history of fake doctors, the more sinister the stories become. Many, many horrible men have posed as gynecologists. It also becomes apparent that, like all con artists, fake doctors tend to prey upon society's most vulnerable people—and that is partly how they evade detection for so long.

According to Sullivan, fake doctors fall into the same personality type as those who pose in other elite "hero" professions. "We see people who claim to be doctors, paramedics, war veterans, and lawyers," he says. "What they tend to have in common is that they choose occupations which give them some form of prestige or recognition, a situation where they get positive feedback and validation for their skills and abilities."

From a mental health point of view, fake doctors are very alike. "In many cases they don't have a formal psychiatric diagnosis. In some cases they're depressed or have substance abuse issues, but in most cases they have personality difficulties. The technical term we use to describe them is 'fantasists'.

"These people are always seeking approval from others," Sullivan continues. "The war veterans always claim to have been in covert operations, they want to wear medals and march in the parade. The doctors don't want to be a GP, they want to set up in the emergency department or do something where they have a little bit of adrenaline."

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I must admit, I've had a hell of a lot of fun from this thread.  I'm listening to the Rocky IV soundtrack as I write this.  'There's no easy way out!, I'm like a stranger in a no name town. Where's the shortcut?  God the realisation that this guy lingered in torment but he was ultimately deterred because he didn't want to make her angry. 

Or 'Burning Heart', two worlds collide.  'In the warrior's code there's no surrender' - it's the paradox that kills!  These lyrics are gold.

This is Americana.  What America doesn't understand is that this flag waving patriotism is kind of insulting to the rest of the world - like in your face kind of rude.  We tolerate it much like we tolerate an uncouth person by pretending we don't notice their trespass.

I was completely taken aback when Trump made his address to the UN, much like he'd do a rally campaign in Kansas City Missouri.  The German delegation openly laughed in his face.  This *was* a historical moment.  The President of the USA being openly mocked by a UN assembly. 

There is no taking that back.  It's an irrevocable stain on the US, your leader is now open to international mockery.  And it is now widely recognized that he doesn't care - in fact if he wasn't seen as so unreliable by the rest of the world, they'd happily wind him around their little finger. 

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27 minutes ago, cavanami said:

Caution....appears we have one here...

The Weird World of People Pretending to Be Doctors and Getting Away with It

It's called 'prestige fraud', and it's terrifying.

 

These people are always seeking approval from others.

In Australia, fake psychiatrist Nora Zakardas famously spent years conducting medical examinations, giving out prescriptions, and advising friends and family members, despite possessing zero qualifications in the field. Zakardas was able to fool even her own doctor, who allowed the con artist to sit in on her examinations and access the medical records of other patients. Eventually, it occurred to a suspicious friend that it might be worth ringing up the medical board and checking whether Zacardas was registered.

The Australian Health Practitioner Regulation Agency tells Broadly that since 2014, it has successfully prosecuted no less than 17 unregistered practitioners. It currently has eight pending matters before the courts.

Monash University's Dr. Danny Sullivan is an actual-qualified psychiatrist and a specialist in criminal fraud. He says successful fake doctors all follow similar patterns: "They'll restrict themselves to a couple of procedures or activities that other people won't necessarily determine that they're inept in, and gradually as they develop the bravado or the skill to pass themselves off more effectively, they might then move to try things that are more ambitious," he tells Broadly.

"So, if they're successful, it's because they've started off as reasonably humble, and then only gradually ramped up what they're doing."

The deeper you dig into the history of fake doctors, the more sinister the stories become. Many, many horrible men have posed as gynecologists. It also becomes apparent that, like all con artists, fake doctors tend to prey upon society's most vulnerable people—and that is partly how they evade detection for so long.

According to Sullivan, fake doctors fall into the same personality type as those who pose in other elite "hero" professions. "We see people who claim to be doctors, paramedics, war veterans, and lawyers," he says. "What they tend to have in common is that they choose occupations which give them some form of prestige or recognition, a situation where they get positive feedback and validation for their skills and abilities."

From a mental health point of view, fake doctors are very alike. "In many cases they don't have a formal psychiatric diagnosis. In some cases they're depressed or have substance abuse issues, but in most cases they have personality difficulties. The technical term we use to describe them is 'fantasists'.

"These people are always seeking approval from others," Sullivan continues. "The war veterans always claim to have been in covert operations, they want to wear medals and march in the parade. The doctors don't want to be a GP, they want to set up in the emergency department or do something where they have a little bit of adrenaline."

I presume this is aimed at me.  Sorry if I'm mistaken.  There is unfortunately as you say a plethora of people that claim to be somehow medically qualified.  I myself having worked in the UK and Australia am addressed by the title of Mr - just like you.  This is owing to my work as a surgeon - it's a long story.  I don't claim to be a hero or anything like that.  It's a job.  But it is a job where people die and unfortunately I'm not inoculated against that.  But I'm strong, strong enough to care.  I do take extended leave. 

I've made more than enough money to easily travel the world for the rest of my life in luxury.  I'm sorry because this is going to sound incredibly arrogant - I keep working because I feel it would be a waste to do otherwise.  I started out to help people, and that hasn't changed.  It will never change.  Reading what you have to say, I wonder what your motivations are?

You seem to be putting yourself to a task that is unconscionable.  A travail, an agony that is torturous.  I genuinely feel sorry for you.  To be a fool is hard enough.  But to be a fool's fool so to speak is rabid madness. 

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4 hours ago, panadolsandwich said:

Also don't worry too much, being schooled by Panadol is the least of your problems.

No one is schooled by your BS...

What school did you go to? when did you graduate?

Your ramblings are total BS, as proven by your non-answer of my questions. I have outted other azzhats, so I will include you in that bunch,

Sorry for you that you feel you must steal a real medical professional's valor...

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