Usa Thread

[Old Hippie]

I have read that if one were to contribute the same amount to a private fund(s)' date=' you would receive significant multiples of what you get from SS.

 

There may be equally arguable opinions both pro and con.

 

HH[/quote']

 

 

The bigger problem would be market volatility. Assuming the markets did well, and stayed that way, then yeah, you might make out better putting the same amount away that way vs. paying into SSI.

 

However, SSI being a pyramid scam, many who are now collecting are doing a hell of a lot better than anyone ever will. Keep in mind, many many years ago, SSI tax was 1/2 of 1%. So the people who paid into it at that rate and are collecting at today's rates made out really well, the rest will have to take less to pay for this.

 

 

I don't think the average Joe and Jane are smart enough.

 

And then who is responsible for the disabled? The baby born with spina bifida etc?

 

[Flashermac]

Lee Harvey Oswald's coffin sells for $87,000

 

 

The coffin in which Lee Harvey Oswald, the man charged with shooting president John F. Kennedy, was buried went under the hammer for over $87,000, the auction house which organized the sale said.

 

The pine coffin is partially water-damaged by the 18 years it spent in the ground before Oswald's body was exhumed in 1981 to lay to rest rumors that a lookalike Soviet agent was buried in his place.

 

The body -- confirmed as genuinely his -- was reburied in another casket, and the original was offered for sale for the first time Friday, by the Nate D Sanders auction house in Los Angeles.

 

A spokeswoman declined to reveal the identity of the purchaser who paid 87,468 dollars for the casket.

 

According to the Dallas News, the coffin was sold by Allen Baumgardner, a Fort Worth funeral home manager who had kept it after being present when Oswald's body was exhumed.

 

Oswald, charged with killing Kennedy on November 22, 1963, was himself shot two days later and buried on November 25, fueling conspiracy theories which still rage to this day.

 

 

 

Maybe they plan to use it as a coffee table.

 

 

 

[LizardKing]

You can invent a slippery slope if you want' date=' but I don't think it really exists anywhere except in your imagination.[/quote']

 

20 states filing suits on this issue is NOT my "imagination". :content:

That just proves once again that GOPers never have an original thought. Monkey see, monkey do.

[Flashermac]

Ever heard Mort Sahl's old line? "The Republican Party's philosophy is never do anything for the first time."

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Flashermac]

Now WTF? Every time I look at a Youtube video the URL has been stripped bare. Is Youtube pissed off about linking directly to it?

 

 

[LizardKing]

Why I hate the GOP and their corporate-run media, #36,936:

 

Last week, a unanimous Senate Republican caucus blocked the Zadroga 9/11 Health and Compensation Act. It's the bill that intended to pay health care costs for 9/11 rescue workers, sickened after exposure to the toxic smoke and debris. For the GOP, it was a simple calculus -- they'd consider bills like this, just as soon as they'd secured tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires.

 

At this point, the only broadcast news outlet that's jumping all over this story is, oddly enough, Comedy Central's "The Daily Show," which has aired multiple segments. Last night, Jon Stewart took Republicans to task for the callousness, and also blasted ABC, NBC, and CBS for completely ignoring the issue on their evening news casts.

 

In fact, the host noted in last night's show that the only network to run a thorough report on the 9/11 health bill was ... Al Jazeera. "Our networks were scooped with a sympathetic Zadroga Bill story by the same network that Osama bin Laden sends his mix tapes to," Stewart noted.

 

Not done there, "The Daily Show" also hosted an on-air discussion with four 9/11 responders, all of whom are suffering health problems believed to be caused by the air they breathed in the aftermath of the attacks.

 

The segment was pretty devastating, and well worth watching.

 

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-december-16-2010/9-11-first-responders-react-to-the-senate-filibuster

 

US news sources are pretty sad when a comedy show does a better job of reporting news & facts than they do. Yet wingnuts still claim that the US media is left wing. The mind boggles.

[Bangkoktraveler]

You can invent a slippery slope if you want' date=' but I don't think it really exists anywhere except in your imagination.[/quote']

 

20 states filing suits on this issue is NOT my "imagination". :content:

That just proves once again that GOPers never have an original thought. Monkey see, monkey do.

 

 

 

You never here people bitch about all the money being spent on two worthless wars and how that money (our money) could be spent on OUR own citizens.

 

I am sick of Conservatives labeling a person a socialist or Communist if we even make the slightest mention that the healthcare we provide the Iraqis should have been provided to our own citizens first.

[Hugh_Hoy]

Why I hate the GOP and their corporate-run media, #36,936:

 

Trust me, LK. The GOP thinks that's a Big F'n deal. It's worried sick. 55555555555

 

HH (who thinks that corporate-run media and the Demoncraps are more than equal to what you want to say about Fox; ie, ABC/Disney and NBC/GE...I forget who runs CBS...Soros?)

 

 

[LizardKing]

I could give a fuck what the GOP thinks. Actually, I'd take bets on if they DO think.

 

Soros runs/owns CBS? 5555555555555

 

And you have the NERVE to rag on me about not sourcing. But hey, he's a great GOP boogyman. Like ACORN, and Move-On and brown people, and the ACLU. They make you a-skeered, do they? Of course, that's not hard. GOPers live off of fear.

 

For the umpteenth time, I'll issue the challenge. You've never risen to it before, so I shan't think you will this time, just run your mouth (but I'm a sporting fellow): give me 5 example of liberal bias in the mainstream media, over a week -- if it is so biased, that should be extremely easy. If you do, I'll give you 5x that amount the opposite way to win.

 

"Liberal" media is a myth and you know it. Prove me wrong.

[LizardKing]

Hey HH, here's a nice paper about this very subject. http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/dec10/Misinformation_Dec10_rpt.pdf

 

It was written by such notable commie-pinko institutions as the Naval War College, Commonwealth Club & Brookings.