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Really? Must be some big friggin computer. LOL Source, please?

 

HH

 

I don't think that everything is being saved, but it's clear that everything is being monitored. Normal chatter by people like us is being scanned automatically checked for keywords. Also they don't need to store all the data, they just need to connecting existing databases commercial and governmental data bases for to get a pretty good view on what you are doing and _thinking_: financial information, health, political views, religion, e.g..

 

Also don't forget that the USA is starting to collect huge sets of data on anybody who is traveling form Europe to the USA.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk...europe-17764365

The PNR information includes names, addresses, credit card and phonenumbers, but in some circumstances may also include sensitive data on an individual's ethnic origin, meal choices, health, political views or sex life.

The US authorities say they will "employ automated systems to filter and mask out sensitive data from PNR".

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I don't think that everything is being saved, but it's clear that everything is being monitored. Normal chatter by people like us is being scanned automatically checked for keywords. Also they don't need to store all the data, they just need to connecting existing databases commercial and governmental data bases for to get a pretty good view on what you are doing and _thinking_: financial information, health, political views, religion, e.g..

 

Also don't forget that the USA is starting to collect huge sets of data on anybody who is traveling form Europe to the USA.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk...europe-17764365

The PNR information includes names, addresses, credit card and phonenumbers, but in some circumstances may also include sensitive data on an individual's ethnic origin, meal choices, health, political views or sex life.

The US authorities say they will "employ automated systems to filter and mask out sensitive data from PNR".

Republicans have openly admitted that Romney and party

are data mining the internet for personal information

on people in hopes of finding some more contributors.

 

Is this practice ethical?

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Republicans have openly admitted that Romney and party

are data mining the internet for personal information

on people in hopes of finding some more contributors.

 

Is this practice ethical?

 

The Dems are doing the same since years. Romney is just catching up, maybe using more advanced methods now.

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"TAMPA — The Republican National Convention opens this week with President Obama and presumptive nominee Mitt Romney running evenly, with voters more focused on Obama’s handling of the nation’s flagging economy than on some issues dominating the political debate in recent weeks.

 

A new Washington Post-ABC News poll shows Romney at 47 percent among registered voters and Obama at 46 percent — barely changed from the deadlocked contest in early July."

 

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"The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday shows President Obama attracting support from 47% of voters nationwide, while Mitt Romney earns 44% of the vote. Four percent (4%) prefer some other candidate, and five percent (5%) are undecided.

 

This is the president’s biggest lead since May. His 47% level of support matches his best since March. See daily tracking history."

 

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kamui is right, the government has been using electronic easedropping and its been going on for years. After the cold war the CIA and intel agencies wanted to make themselves relevant and feared downsizing, started industrial spying and espionage in the early to mid '90s by easedropping on European businesses and giving American rivals the information. We knew upcoming mergers, new products and innovations. So much so the European governments were complaining, especially France. Anything that was bouncing off a satelite was monitored.

 

We've had the echelon super computer for years and its now pretty much public record when it was a secret before. The government during the Bush years said that getting the information (emails, phone calls) via deals with internet providers like yahoo and google as well as off satelites wasn't an invasion of privacy and unconstitutional since they discard the information if its not useful. You can get your snail mail read as well. The tecnology is there to see what's inside and what's written on paper. There is no privacy any longer. Its a myth.

 

There was a Brit woman who tweeted some joke about blowing up her plane before going on vacation in America and she was denied entry. Homeland said it was acting on a tip. Complete BS. The manifest of planes and any foreigner applying for a visa has their information monitored. Any social media they use gets monitored. Everything we do on here, this post, gets monitored. The sick part is that there have been courts that said that there is no more expectation of privacy, even if its in violation of the constitutional. Basically, if we know we are being illegally monitored, then privacy is not a defense if the government and law enforcement arrest us on some charge.

 

Anything you posess can be searched and viewed in customs. Anything on your computer, phone, camera, etc. Business men working on a merger can have their usb, computer, etc. monitored and any information can be viewed. Your own body internally can be x rayed, pregnant women the exception. The excuse for men is child pornography, despite there being very rare cases of someone stupid enough to have it on their laptop coming into America. There simply is no empirical evidence to support that its a problem for the government to use it as an excuse to search your personal information.

 

I personally find the platform disengenious and an election year strategy. With very few exceptions (Ron Paul for example), Republicans fully supported or did nothing when Bush expanded surveilance of citizens and violating our civil liberties. The sad thing is Obama continuing such programs under the guise of security. We've given up our privacy for the false reward of security. We as a collective are led to believe had we taken these measures prior to 911 we could have avoided when its not so. The agents that were alerted to the 911 terrorists didn't use or need such things. Anyway, with regards to civil liberties and privacy issue, I fear the Republicans far more. As a doctrine they are supposed to be about personal freedom but have acted the complete opposite when it comes to legislation. Dems aren't much better but the left that are opposed to such things are more vocal.

 

As for Romney's offshore accounts, I agree it doesn't make him a bad guy. What it does address is what is deemed self serving with regards to his platform. The Kennedy's were rich (not nearly as rich anymore) but had a reputation for beign very liberal, pro poor and middle class and pro taxes which ran counter to their social class. Romney may not have had the maintenence of his social economic status as a reason and he may genuinely believe its best for all Americans but it doesn't look good when he benefits the most from it. One can question his motivations for such policies when its self serviing.

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http://themoderatevoice.com/157504/msnbcs-chris-matthews-accuses-rnc-chairman-reince-priebus-of-playing-the-race-card/

Chris Matthews accused RNC chairman of playing the race card.

 

 

Wow!! Clapping my hands!! Go Chris. I will say this. First, he is the 4th estate and the anger he showed and the vehemence showed bias. I will say that much. I try to be fair to both sides of an issue (often failing) but I thought he clearly overstepped his role as a journalist, even if I think he was telling the truth.

 

I will also say that Obama has been deceptive as well in his ads and rhetoric and not making excuses for him, its about average for election years. None of it was personal or more than we have seen before.

 

We are still sensitive about race in this country. There are too many blacks who see every thing through racism. I won't excuse it despite the history. Its not all of us and dare I say most of us. I've had many conversations with fellow educated blacks and the range of what we deem to be racist varies. What I see as ignorance others see as racism both in personal experiences as well as what we see in the media. I've faced unequivocal racism. No doubt by anyone's standards. I've been blessed to grow up with a family that was truly color blind where I had no qualms whatsoever that if I brought any of you to my parents home or my sibllings they'd treat you as one of the family.

 

I have asked people of varying ethnic backgrounds, sexual orientation and such questions out of curiosity sake and so I don't mind the same asked of me about my race or background. Its how bridges gets built.

 

So, with that said, even when I was voting for people in the Republican party, the one thing that always disgusted me was they often using buzzwords and issues to exasperate the division between races for the sake of votes. Pitting one group of Americans against another using fear.

 

I will also fault Dems for scaring some blacks, especially the poor and under educated with labeling Republicans as racists using inuendos as well. Its possible to be against certain programs, etc. and not be racist. Conservative members of this are a prime example. You're all decent people. Whoremongers..haha..but decent.

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