Usa Thread

[Bangkoktraveler]

>>Gabrielle Giffords is Jewish.

 

.. I don't see how that excuses Palin from trying to make herself a martyr by hijacking a phrase relating to a people who were truly persecuted and maligned.

 

 

Sarah used the expression [color:red]"blood libel"[/color] which is an old expression used for centuries that perpetuates the belief about the Jews killed Christians for ritualistic purposes. Because of this belief, people have felt justified in spreading anti-Semitism and also massacres of Jews.

 

 

To put more salt into the wounds, Gabrielle Giffords is Jewish.

[dave32]

btw - Where have you been Robaus? Missed your provocations!

 

I wonder if you guys would hold yourself up to the same standards you (seemingly) want to apply. Intent and context, they don't matter -- what does matter is the strictest and most noxious interpretation of possible meanings. We'd have to delete 3/4 of the forum.

 

I don't want none of you fuckers touching my posts!!!

 

Ps. A lot of stuff coming from the right is mean-spirited, hateful, and utter garbage (no offense Hugh). But Loughner is not where you want to make your case. OK?

[robaus]

>>Bush said that he preferred to personally meet privately with the families of those fallen to the extent possible. (Snopes says that he met with 100's of such families.)

 

...it'd be interesting to know what words of comfort he used to explain how he had led their children into a war that was a complete waste of resources and patriotic lives. USA didn't even get cheap oil out of the fiasco.

[Hugh_Hoy]

Flash...Barry DID attend a memorial serice at Ft. Hood.

 

Robaus...Bush explained his absence from military funerals in an interview with Stars and Stripes. He explained that he could not possibly attend every funeral of every fallen soldier and that if he attended one' date=' he should attend all. Bush said that he preferred to personally meet privately with the families of those fallen to the extent possible. (Snopes says that he met with 100's of such families.)

 

HH[/quote']

Maybe, but heaven forbid anyone saw that in any media.

 

You expect the liberal media to print it? Give me a break, LK.

 

As for "ethics", I don't think you want to go there. :content:

 

HH

[acockasian]

....and so is the nut who shot her.

 

 

[robaus]

>>And his mates?...Labour in the uk are the loony whiney left not conservatives.

 

...The plan to invade Iraq on a phoney pretext was hatched in Washington by Bushit and his neo con mates such as Wolfowitz, Perle, and Feith who had strong allegiances to a certain Middle Eastern country.

 

Blair and Howard were just Bushit's poodles being taken for walkies.

[Bangkoktraveler]

....and so is the nut who shot her.

 

 

 

Loughner is Jewish because he has a Jewish mother but he wasn't a practicing Jew. He claimed one of his 20 odd books he liked was Hitler's Mein Kampf. One of his favorite people was Sarah Palin.

 

Some historians claimed Hitler had some Jewish blood. Does that make him a Jew? Probably.

[robaus]

I think we are on the same page, BT

 

When early Christians falsely libeled Jews that they had blood on their hands it was complete bullshit and an excuse for a pogrom.

 

Palin is trying to jump on the bandwagon (for the Jewish sympathy vote?) saying that she is being falsely libeled too.. the faith of the assassination victim is irrelevant for Palin's purpose.. a spot of irony maybe that she hadn't quite thought through.

 

The difference is that IMO she is partly responsible for the bloodshed in Arizona. Why the fuck use gun analogies such as "cross hairs" and "Don't retreat, reload" if "2nd amendment remedies" is not what is going through her mind.... besides huge amounts of empty space.

 

And the ridiculous name for her group... The Tea Party. Its not a revolutionary war against a tyrannical George III and his government. Obama is the democratically elected president of the USA. You actually won the 18th Century war! Someone tell her she doesn't have to fight the redcoats any more; just use the ballot box, and see which policies the majority fancy.

 

Sarah could have used sporting, economic, or even sexual metaphors... "Let's put some Viagra into this nation. Let's all grope for the G Spot.. Who'll help me find my clitoris?" :hubba:

 

If Sarah can get carried away with imaginative rhetoric, so can I. :-)

 

[robaus]

>>btw - Where have you been Robaus? Missed your provocations!

 

... been travelling around the land of the long white cloud for a couple of months. Back to Oz next week via Brisbane, if floods subsided.

 

Back to Disneyworld late Feb hopefully.

 

[Old Hippie]

....and so is the nut who shot her.

 

 

 

Loughner is Jewish because he has a Jewish mother but he wasn't a practicing Jew. He claimed one of his 20 odd books he liked was Hitler's Mein Kampf. One of his favorite people was Sarah Palin.

 

Some historians claimed Hitler had some Jewish blood. Does that make him a Jew? Probably.

 

 

 

Jeez, talk about self haters...