kamui Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 As I understand a major part of the therapy of the A.A. (Anonymous Alcoholics) is based on Christian beliefs... I guess Christianity has two sides, the 'Bavarian' where monasteries still produce their own very strong beer and the Northern European Christian side which despised anything which has to do with lust and fun... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redbaron Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 As I understand a major part of the therapy of the A.A. (Anonymous Alcoholics) is based on Christian beliefs... AA is part of a Christian organisation, or at least used to be. Not sure how much they preach the religion whilst helping people though. I think not a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baa99 Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 As I understand a major part of the therapy of the A.A. (Anonymous Alcoholics) is based on Christian beliefs... AA is part of a Christian organisation, or at least used to be. Not sure how much they preach the religion whilst helping people though. I think not a lot. 12 step These are the original Twelve Steps as published by Alcoholics Anonymous:[10] We admitted we were powerless over alcohol—that our lives had become unmanageable. Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity. Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him. Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves. Admitted to God, to ourselves, and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs. Were entirely ready to have God remove all these defects of character. Humbly asked Him to remove our shortcomings. Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all. Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others. Continued to take personal inventory, and when we were wrong, promptly admitted it. Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with God as we understood Him, praying only for knowledge of His will for us and the power to carry that out. Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to alcoholics, and to practice these principles in all our affairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redbaron Posted October 8, 2012 Report Share Posted October 8, 2012 hit the nail on the head baa - they are the original "steps" of AA, however according to the lads I deal with who deliver the meetings the religious aspect has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted October 8, 2012 Report Share Posted October 8, 2012 Mekong...congrats...again a thrilling read...thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekong Posted October 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 Mekong...congrats...again a thrilling read...thanks! Cheers buddha, It was an interesting experience and one I would not wish on anybody, I am just glad it is all behind me now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dexi Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 And the motto of this tale should be " Never marry a Thai " ( or any other nationality )... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekong Posted December 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 Well, it was bound to happen one day and today it did, the ex and I crossed paths, I live in Sathorn District of Bangkok and she works in the same area so it was inevitable, surprised it did not happen sooner to be honest. I was out for dinner with my Lady Friend (Girlfriend sounds stupid when closing on fast at 50) and her brothers, enjoying a family dinner and she walked into the same place, to make matters worse the only free table was next to mine, I bit my tongue and enjoyed my own company until the Check Bin landed, it was 995 THB and I made the snide remark, "Only 999,999 meals to go from what you paid me thank you and "she flipped", OK I did ask for it maybe . She grabbed my Glass, calling me a drunken bum thinking I was drinking Vodka, it was only water, I grabbed her arm and in the ensuing scuffle the liquid ended up in her face and I said "Som Naam Na", she went bright red and stomped off. My Lady Friends younger Brother and the ex's friend who hung around were literally pissing themselves laughing and I was like "Why What is so Funny" and between giggles I heard Som Naam Na. Now I have been using the phrase for over two decades now without understanding the literal translation Naam = Water Na = Face but I never understood the Som Part, To me Som = Orange (as in Naam som orange juice) so Som naam did not make sense to me but in the full context until it was explained to me last night (and why people laughing) Som ® is Orange but Som(f) is Deserve so the Thai phrase Som Naam Na literally translates to "You Deserve Water in Your Face" and the stupid ex through water in her own face, then I got the joke 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 I've never heard anyone say som naam na. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Munchmaster Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 I was out for dinner with my Lady Friend (Girlfriend sounds stupid when closing on fast at 50) and her brothers, enjoying a family dinner and she walked into the same place, to make matters worse the only free table was next to mine, I bit my tongue and enjoyed my own company until the Check Bin landed, it was 995 THB and I made the snide remark, "Only 999,999 meals to go from what you paid me thank you and "she flipped", OK I did ask for it maybe . She grabbed my Glass, calling me a drunken bum thinking I was drinking Vodka, it was only water, I grabbed her arm and in the ensuing scuffle the liquid ended up in her face and I said "Som Naam Na", she went bright red and stomped off. My Lady Friends younger Brother and the ex's friend who hung around were literally pissing themselves laughing and I was like "Why What is so Funny" and between giggles I heard Som Naam Na. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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