baa99 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Blackouts have happen in other places. Date: 25-Sep [2007] Incident: Air traffic controllers were forced to use their personal cell phones to reroute hundreds of flights Tuesday after the Federal Aviation Administration's Memphis Center lost radar and telephone service for more than two hours, snarling air traffic in the middle of the nation. Air traffic was halted at 12:35 p.m. ET when a major communication line that feeds all the telephones at the FAA's Memphis Center failed. The malfunction, occurred inside a telephone company's switching office, making it impossible for air controllers at FAA's Memphis Center to communicate normally with adjoining centers to hand off control of flights. Service was restored at 3 p.m. Doug Church, a spokesman for the National Air Traffic Controllers Association, called the failure "a major safety problem." Radar Blackout [11-11-1986] A power failure knocked out radar controlling high-altitude commercial air traffic from the Texas panhandle to Southern California for 40 minutes last week, according to a report published today. A separate power failure knocked out another radar facility near Phoenix, Ariz., leaving air traffic controllers without radar for 2 days as they guided flights over western Arizona - a smaller region, but the busiest air route for Southern California. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobbledonk Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Wanna see something really scary ? Garuda.,... its Indo for DOA Since its first incident in 1950, Garuda Indonesia has suffered 12 fatal accidents and one hijacking. These are the major ones: On 16 February 1967, Garuda Indonesia Airways Flight 708 crashed on landing at Manado capital of the North Sulawesi province of Indonesia killing 22 out of 84 passengers. On 28 May 1968, a Garuda Indonesia Convair 990 bound for Karachi, Pakistan crashed into the sea just after taking off from Bombay Santa Cruz airport (now Chhatrapati Shivaji International Airport). All 29 people on board (15 passengers and 14 crew members) died. In addition, there was one casualty on the ground. On 7 September 1974, a Garuda Indonesia Fokker F-27 crashed on approach to Tanjung Karang-Branti Airport. The aircraft crashed short of the runway while on approach in limited visibility weather. The aircraft eventually struck buildings near the runway and caught fire, killing 33 out of 36 people on board (30 passengers and 3 crew members). On 24 September 1975, Garuda Indonesia Flight 150 crashed on approach to Sultan Mahmud Badaruddin II Airport. The accident, which was attributed to poor weather and fog, killed 25 out of 61 passengers plus one person on the ground. On 11 July 1979, a Garuda Indonesia Fokker F-28 on a domestic flight hit a volcano on approach to Medan Airport, Indonesia, all 61 on board killed.[71] On 28 March 1981, Garuda Indonesia Flight 206 a DC-9 aircraft on a domestic flight was hijacked. This was the first serious Indonesian airline hijacking, since the first case was a desperate Marine hijacker who was killed by the pilot himself. The hijackers, a group called Commando Jihad, hijacked the DC-9 "Woyla", enroute from Palembang to Medan, and ordered the crew to fly the aircraft to Colombo, Sri Lanka. Since the aircraft did not have enough fuel, it refueled in Penang, Malaysia and then at Don Muang, Thailand. The hijackers demanded the release of Commando Jihad members imprisoned in Indonesia, and US $ 1.5 million, as well as an aircraft to take those prisoners to an unspecified destination. One of the Kopassus commandos was shot, probably by his comrades, as was the pilot, also probably by Kopassus commandos. The rest of the hostages were released unharmed. Two of the hijackers surrendered, but they were killed by the Kopassus commandos on the plane taking them back to Jakarta. The two remaining hijackers who had surrendered were killed on the aircraft carrying them and the Kopassus troops back to Jakarta.[72] On 20 March 1982, a Garuda Indonesia Fokker F-28 on a domestic flight overran the runway at Tanjung Karang-Branti Airport in bad weather, all 27 were killed when the aircraft burst into flames.[73] On 4 April 1987, Garuda Indonesia Flight 035, a Douglas DC-9, hit a pylon and crashed on approach to Medan Polonia International Airport in bad weather with 24 fatalities.[74] On 13 June 1996, Garuda Indonesia Flight 865, a McDonnell Douglas DC-10 departing Fukuoka, Japan overran the runway after aborting the takeoff well above rotation speed. The number-3 engine fuel line was severed, resulting in a massive fire and the total destruction of the rear end of the aircraft. Three of the 275 people on board were killed.[75] Fuck .... On 26 September 1997, Garuda Indonesia Flight 152, an Airbus A300B4-220 aircraft flying from Jakarta, crashed in Sibolangit, 18 miles (29 km) short of Medan airport in low visibility, killing all 234 on board. It is the deadliest aviation incident in Indonesia.[76] On 16 January 2002, Garuda Indonesia Flight 421 was a Boeing 737–300 traveling from Lombok to Yogyakarta was forced to make an emergency landing in poor weather on the Bengawan Solo River, due to engine flameout caused by water and hail ingestion. One person, a stewardess, was killed in the accident; 59 other passengers and crew survived.[77] On 6 September 2004, human rights activist Munir Said Thalib was bound for Amsterdam via Singapore on a Garuda flight when he was poisoned with arsenic during his flight transit in Singapore, or sometime near that time. A former Garuda Indonesia airline pilot was convicted. It was concluded from Munir's autopsy and eye witnesses during the trial, that he had died two hours before arrival in Schiphol, Amsterdam.[78] On 7 March 2007, Garuda Indonesia Flight 200, a Boeing 737–400 flying from Jakarta, crashed and burst into flames on landing at Adisucipto International Airport, Yogyakarta at 07.00 am. 21 people were killed.[79] Granted, they have nothing on Aeroflot - Russian for 'Flying Crematorium' - but as an Asian carrier they dont encourage a great deal of confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radioman Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Yeah, who said flying was ever safe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamui Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Yeah, who said flying was ever safe? It still is. I guess going from and to the airport is much more dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted June 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Flying has always been safe. It's crashing and burning that isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baa99 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 It still is. I guess going from and to the airport is much more dangerous. Especially traveling in a tuk-tuk to the airport! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobbledonk Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 If you find yourself in a Tuk-tuk on the way to MUMBAI airport, I'd suggest that you have a much bigger problem than elephants. That photo would put you in India, and that would be colossally fucked up. (fwiw, I dont think Tuk-tuks are allowed on the tollway (!), but watching Ong-Bak left me wondering if that was always the case ?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamui Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 If you find yourself in a Tuk-tuk on the way to MUMBAI airport, I'd suggest that you have a much bigger problem than elephants. That photo would put you in India, and that would be colossally fucked up. (fwiw, I dont think Tuk-tuks are allowed on the tollway (!), but watching Ong-Bak left me wondering if that was always the case ?) If you consider On-Bak a documentary about daily Thail life... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiHome Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 Wanna see something really scary ? Garuda.,... its Indo for DOA Granted, they have nothing on Aeroflot - Russian for 'Flying Crematorium' - but as an Asian carrier they dont encourage a great deal of confidence. To this day our company does not allow domestic flights on Garuda. The international divison has gotten off the list. Aeroflot is completly forbiden. TH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted June 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 I was told the UK embassy had Air Laos on it's no-go list for years, until Air Laos finally bought some new aircraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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