Idiot Congressman Says 'legitimate Rape' Rarely Causes Pregnancy

[TheCorinthian]

I dont normally like MSNBC... but they got this one right....

 

My link about a moron....

 

 

 

Idiot congressman says 'legitimate rape' rarely causes pregnancy

 

 

A GOP Senate nominee was met with rather dumbfounded criticism today after, while explaining why he opposes abortion under any circumstances, he told a FOX News reporter that women don't get pregnant very often in cases of "legitimate rape" because their bodies have ways to "shut that whole thing down." U.S. Rep. Todd Akin of Missouri didn't specify what exactly those biological mechanisms are (Self-imploding eggs that detect nonconsensual sperm? Rape antibodies capable of flushing unauthorized semen?), but he insisted he'd heard about the medical phenomenon from doctors. We're not sure exactly which doctors he's been talking to — or what a "legitimate rape" is — but we're pretty sure this can't be good for his campaign.

[WorldFun]

i voted the 2nd option lol

and I'd like to learn more about those 'legetimate' rape details.

in fact this guy would fit right in the heart of the thai government

[Flashermac]

Apparently, by "legitimate rape" he means genuine rape, not statutory or false claims of rape by angry women. I am still puzzled a bit by his anti-rape biological mechanisms though. Maybe he has discovered something new.

[kamui]

Apparently, by "legitimate rape" he means genuine rape, not statutory or false claims of rape by angry women. I am still puzzled a bit by his anti-rape biological mechanisms though. Maybe he has discovered something new.

 

But of course his wording "legitimate rape" implies that there are a lot of illegitimate rapes, which are not.

[unit731]

"WASHINGTON -- With Rep. Todd Akin (R-Mo.) embroiled in controversy over remarks that victims of "legitimate rape" rarely get pregnant, political handicappers are reassessing the viability of his challenge to Democratic incumbent Sen. Claire McCaskill.

 

Although polls conducted in recent months show Akin leading McCaskill, political observers are speculating that Akin's support will drop, with the disagreement centering mostly on how much the numbers will change."

 

 

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This nice fellow was ahead in the polls by nearly 10 points. A shoe in some say. Now it is Rep. Todd's (R-MO) to lose.

 

Not sure though, are women allowed to vote in Misouri?

[Flashermac]

 

Not sure though, are women allowed to vote in Misouri?

 

 

 

Only in burqas.

 

 

p.s. Even Republicans are calling on the idiot to resign from the race.

 

 

[Bangkoktraveler]

I dont normally like MSNBC... but they got this one right....

 

My link about a moron....

 

 

 

Idiot congressman says 'legitimate rape' rarely causes pregnancy

 

 

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Sounds like another conservative Republican

got caught saying what he didn't mean.

 

No harm - consider the source.

[Bangkoktraveler]

Whatever happened to Larry Ctaig?

[Coss]

Apparently, by "legitimate rape" he means genuine rape, not statutory or false claims of rape by angry women. I am still puzzled a bit by his anti-rape biological mechanisms though. Maybe he has discovered something new.

 

Not wanting to enter into any argument for or agin, but...

 

The well known propensity for invading forces to rape all the rape-able women on the loser's side, has biological precedent in the animal world, Lions do it, Apes do it and we do it.

 

There has been work done to show that pregnancy rates are higher per capita in invader rapes than ordinary 'criminal' rapes.

 

There has also been suggestion that part of the reason women (may/can/do) fantasize about being raped is the certainty that the genes acquired will be from a different pool and therefore confer vigor on the offspring ( known effect, introduce new lines to inbred populations = vigor ).

 

Another effect of raping the loser's women is that this immediately (9 months) ties a large part of the loser's population to the victors via the children and the mother's love for them.

 

JMHO

[Flashermac]

Red Army troops raped even Russian women as they freed them from camps

 

 

THE Red Army's orgy of rape in the dying days of Nazi Germany was conducted on a much greater scale than previously suspected, according to a new book by the military historian Anthony Beevor.

 

Beevor, the author of the best-selling Stalingrad, says advancing Soviet troops raped large numbers of Russian and Polish women held in concentration camps, as well as millions of Germans.

 

The extent of the Red Army's indiscipline and depravity emerged as the author studied Soviet archives for his forthcoming book Berlin, to be published in April by Viking.

 

Beevor - who was educated at Sandhurst and served in the 11th Hussars (Prince Albert's Own), an elite cavalry regiment - says details of the Soviet soldiers' behaviour have forced him to revise his view of human nature.

 

"Having always in the past slightly pooh-poohed the idea that most men are potential rapists, I had to come to the conclusion that if there is a lack of army discipline, most men with a weapon, dehumanised by living through two or three years of war, do become potential rapists," he told The Bookseller.

He appears to echo the American feminist Marilyn French's notorious claim that "in their relations with women, all men are rapists, and that's all they are".

 

Any such resemblance is, however, superficial. Beevor is careful to qualify any suggestion that what happened from 1944 onwards is in any way typical of male behaviour in peacetime. But he admits that he was "shaken to the core" to discover that Russian and Polish women and girls liberated from concentration camps were also violated.

 

"That completely undermined the notion that the soldiers were using rape as a form of revenge against the Germans," he said.

 

"By the time the Russians reached Berlin, soldiers were regarding women almost as carnal booty; they felt because they were liberating Europe they could behave as they pleased. That is very frightening, because one starts to realise that civilisation is terribly superficial and the facade can be stripped away in a very short time."

 

Beevor's high reputation as a historian ensures that his claims will be taken seriously. Stalingrad was widely praised and awarded the prestigious Samuel Johnson Prize, the Wolfson Prize for History and the Hawthornden Prize.

 

His account of the siege of Berlin, however, promises to be more controversial. "In many ways the fate of the women and the girls in Berlin is far worse than that of the soldiers starving and suffering in Stalingrad."

 

To understand why the rape of Germany was so uniquely terrible, the context is essential. Operation Barbarossa, the Nazi invasion of Russia in 1941, began the most genocidal conflict in history. Perhaps 30 million inhabitants of the Soviet Union are now thought to have died during the war, including more than three million who were deliberately starved in German PoW camps.

 

The Germans, having shown no quarter, could expect none in return. Their casualties were also on a vast scale. In the Battle of Berlin alone more than a million German soldiers were killed or died later in captivity, plus at least 100,000 civilians. The Soviet Union lost more than 300,000 men.

 

Against this horrific background, Stalin and his commanders condoned or even justified rape, not only against Germans but also their allies in Hungary, Romania and Croatia. When the Yugoslav Communist Milovan Djilas protested to Stalin, the dictator exploded: "Can't he understand it if a soldier who has crossed thousands of kilometres through blood and fire and death has fun with a woman or takes some trifle?"

 

And when German Communists warned him that the rapes were turning the population against them, Stalin fumed: "I will not allow anyone to drag the reputation of the Red Army in the mud."

 

The rapes had begun as soon as the Red Army entered East Prussia and Silesia in 1944. In many towns and villages every female, aged from 10 to 80, was raped. Alexander Solzhenitsyn, the Nobel laureate who was then a young officer, described the horror in his narrative poem Prussian Nights: "The little daughter's on the mattress,/Dead. How many have been on it/A platoon, a company perhaps?"

 

But Solzhenitsyn was rare: most of his comrades regarded rape as legitimate. As the offensive struck deep into Germany, the orders of Marshal Zhukov, their commander, stated: "Woe to the land of the murderers. We will get a terrible revenge for everything."

 

By the time the Red Army reached Berlin its reputation, reinforced by Nazi propaganda, had already terrified the population, many of whom fled. Though the hopeless struggle came to an end in May 1945, the ordeal of German women did not.

 

How many German women were raped? One can only guess, but a high proportion of at least 15 million women who either lived in the Soviet Union zone or were expelled from Germany's eastern provinces. The scale of rape is suggested by the fact that about two million women had illegal abortions every year between 1945 and 1948.

 

It was not until the winter of 1946-47 that the Soviet authorities, concerned by the spread of disease, imposed serious penalties on their forces in East Germany for fraternising with the enemy.

 

Soviet soldiers saw rape, often carried out in front of a woman's husband and family, as an appropriate way of humiliating the Germans, who had treated Slavs as an inferior race with whom sexual relations were discouraged. Russia's patriarchal society and the habit of binge-drinking were also factors, but more important was resentment at the discovery of Germany's comparative wealth.

 

The fact, highlighted by Beevor, that Soviet troops raped not only Germans but also their victims, recently liberated from concentration camps, suggests that the sexual violence was often indiscriminate, although far fewer Russian or Polish women were raped when their areas were liberated compared to the conquered Germans.

 

Jews, however, were not necessarily regarded by Soviet troops as fellow victims of the Nazis. The Soviet commissars had commandeered German concentration camps in order to incarcerate their own political prisoners, who included "class enemies" as well as Nazi officials, and their attitude towards the previous inmates was, to say the least, unsentimental.

 

As for the millions of Russian prisoners or slave workers who survived the Nazis: those who were not executed as traitors or sent to the Gulag could count themselves lucky. The women among them were probably treated no better than the Germans, perhaps worse.

 

The rape of Germany left a bitter legacy. It contributed to the unpopularity of the East German communist regime and its consequent reliance on the Stasi secret police. The victims themselves were permanently traumatised: women of the wartime generation still refer to the Red Army war memorial in Berlin as "the Tomb of the Unknown Rapist".

 

The Telegraph