The_Munchmaster Posted October 13, 2012 Report Share Posted October 13, 2012 The way I see it he was banned "for life" because it is alleged he did it over so many years, not just once or twice. The usual 6 month ban comes for a one off. So you're saying that the guys who got a six month ban only doped once?! No, they got a special deal in return for testifying against Armstrong. I'm sure their testimony is very reliable.................NOT!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 Maybe we will see photos in the Thai papers of them reenacting the doping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coss Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 or in 5 years, Armstrong with a non steroid body, all flab etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzzz Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 The sport will be better off without doping; but doping had been part of the cycling culture for a long time. Even the great Eddy Merckx has admitted that he did drugs. Jacques Anquetil is legendary for his quote about not riding the Tour "on mineral water alone." Riders have used crazy mixes of drugs to help them race since the dawn of cycling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pai mei Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 NYT had a good piece on the Armstrong report My link OT the piece that leaves me sad Steve is the news of Jim McMahons early dementia link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 ASADA to investigate White's doping admission The Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority (ASADA) said on Monday it will launch an investigation after former Olympic cyclist Matt White admitted involvement in the Lance Armstrong doping conspiracy. White, 38, has said he was part of a strategy of doping when he rode on the Armstrong-led US Postal Service cycling team from 2001 to 2003. He announced at the weekend that he was stepping down from his jobs as the sports director of the emerging Australian professional team Orica-GreenEDGE and his role in Cycling Australia's men's road racing programme. Cycling Australia said it will meet this week to discuss what action it will take following his disclosure. ASADA said that in 2010 it became aware of allegations of doping made against White by American cyclist Floyd Landis. But the anti-doping agency said due to the federal investigation in the US and the subsequent United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) investigation, ASADA was unable to obtain information to pursue a thorough examination of those allegations until now. "The confession of doping by Mr White is indeed a serious matter," ASADA said in a statement. "The action of peer pressure to force any athlete to dope is abhorrent, but does not excuse the choice made by an individual athlete to participate in a team strategy that sets out to deceive the sport and its fans." ASADA said it pursued every case of doping as per its obligation under the World Anti-Doping Code and its own legislation. "Due to the extensive nature of the USADA report and the latest admission by Mr White, ASADA will be seeking further information from USADA and Cycling Australia as the relevant national sporting organisation," it said. "This may take some time, but ASADA has a duty to be both thorough and accurate in its investigation. "Until this process is completed ASADA will refrain from making any further comments." White's confession comes as fallout from the scandal widens, with Armstrong having been stripped of his seven Tour de France victories and banned from cycling for life after a long investigation by USADA. Armstrong, who denies taking banned substances, has been accused by USADA of being at the heart of "the most sophisticated, professionalised and successful doping programme" ever seen in sport. My link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobbledonk Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Given the scandals around doping, they should just let them put whatever the hell they want into their bodies - sooner or later someone will die on the track and it might be a wake-up call. Drugs are rife through swimming, weight-lifting and, clearly, cycling. Armstrong reportedly called one of the women who came out against him back in '05 a whore and threatened another guy who admitted to sitting beside him while the doctors did their thing during the systematic doping regime. Classy guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limbo Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Ever heard of Tom Simpson? 13 July 1967, died on the Mount Ventoux, doped up to his gills with amphetamines. A couple of Dutch riders died of heart failures a few years back. need more evidence that people died already? It's probably similar to 'my girl is different' or 'it won't happen to me' (dying that is) kinda logic. All of cycling was and still is doped up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 << Simpson was Britain's first men's road race World Champion (a feat matched only by Mark Cavendish in 2011), and won three monument classics, Paris-Nice and two Vuelta a España stages. He infamously died of exhaustion on the slopes of Mont Ventoux during the 13th stage of the 1967 Tour de France. The post mortem examination found that he had taken amphetamine and alcohol, a diuretic combination which proved fatal when combined with the heat, the hard climb of the Ventoux and a stomach complaint. ... Aftermath For a while, nothing happened. There was no inquest in either Britain or France. Then a British reporter, J. L. Manning of the Daily Mail, broke the news: "Tommy Simpson rode to his death in the Tour de France so doped that he did not know he had reached the limit of his endurance. He died in the saddle, slowly asphyxiated by intense effort in a heatwave after taking methylam-phetamine drugs and alcoholic stimulants." >> http://en.wikipedia....iki/Tom_Simpson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BelgianBoy Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 All of cycling was and still is doped up! any link to "still doped up" please ? sure there is dope, but the organisers of races are also at fault, no way riders can endure 21 days of hard race in the Giro, TdF or Vuelta only on orange juice...... any proof or links appreciated...... BB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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