unit731 Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 Another Middle East dictator in the making? "* Parties call for big protest on Tuesday * Police, youths clash near Tahrir Square * Highest judicial authority says "unprecedented attack" By Tom Perry CAIRO, Nov 25 (Reuters) - Youths clashed with police in Cairo on Saturday as protests at new powers assumed by President Mohamed Mursi stretched into a second day, confronting Egypt with a crisis th a t has exposed the split between newly empowered Islamists and their opponents." LINK"]http://www.reuters.c...3P20121124]LINK[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lazyphil Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 red herring!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robaus Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 "But there were signs on Saturday that not all the Palestinian casualties have been the result of Israeli air strikes. The highly publicised death of four-year-old Mohammed Sadallah appeared to have been the result of a misfiring home-made rocket, not a bomb dropped by Israel. The child’s death on Friday figured prominently in media coverage after Hisham Kandil, the Egyptian prime minister, was filmed lifting his dead body out of an ambulance. "The boy, the martyr, whose blood is still on my hands and clothes, is something that we cannot keep silent about," he said, before promising to defend the Palestinian people. But experts from the Palestinian Centre for Human Rights who visited the site on Saturday said they believed that the explosion was caused by a Palestinian rocket." LINK LINK You’re at it again, Unit ... I said independent credible sources (CNN, BBC), not the notorious Torygraph...the UK print sister of Fox Noise, whose owner the Jewish Zionist Rupert Murdoch prints the paper, and whose ex owner Conrad Black, also a prominent Jewish Zionist and owner of the Jerusalem Post, before he went to prison for fraud and obstruction of justice. Notice also the weasel words "experts'"..."believed"..but not named, and what are they supposedly expert at? Sloppy eh, but just enough to plant a rumour. WTF use fake dead babies when there are plenty of dead ones resulting from Israeli shells and bombs? Note well, Israeli PR tactics: 1.. We haven't heard reports of deaths, will check into it 2. The people were killed, but by a faulty Palestinian rocket/bomb 3. Ok we killed them, but they were terrorists 4. Ok they were civilians, but they were being used as human shields 5. Ok there were no fighters in the area, so it was our mistake. But we kill civilians by accident, they do it on purpose 6. Ok we kill far more civilians than they do, but look at how terrible other countries are! 7. Why are you still talking about Israel? Are you some kind of anti-semite? 8. Repeat from step 1 ...check this guide against the next time Mark Regev, Israeli propaganda spokesman speaks on TV. Notice his Aussie accent because that’s where he was born!.So WTF is he doing in Palestine? I haven’t rumbled your instruction manual, have I, Unit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unit731 Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 "The Palestinian Center for Human Rights, the leading human rights group in Gaza Strip that documents every single Israeli attack that takes place, does not include this child's name on its list of victims." LINK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huumlaar Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 WTF are you smoking? From the web site you list as NOT reporting children killed (OOOOPS) http://www.pchrgaza.org/portal/en/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=9048:israeli-offensive-on-gaza-stopped-following-8-days-of-attacks-&catid=145:in-focus The total numbers of victims of the Israeli offensive on the Gaza Strip Saturday, 24 November 2012 00:00 - Palestinian Deaths Rise to 160, Including 105 Civilians, and 1,000 Others, Including 971 Civilians, Wounded - 34 Children Killed and 274 Others Wounded - 13 Women Killed and 162 Others Wounded - 3 Journalists Killed From their weekly report dated Weekly Report On Israeli Human Rights Violations in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (14 -21 Nov. 2012) IOF launched a new offensive on the Gaza Strip 156 Palestinians, including 103 civilians were killed IOF 33 children, 13 women and 3 journalists were among those civilians who were killed. 1,000 Palestinians, including 971 civilians, were wounded. 247 children, 162 women and 12 journalists were among those civilians who were wounded. IOF carried out 1,350 airstrikes, in which 1,400 missiles were launched. Hey - great web site to PROVE YOU WRONG Thanks for the linK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huumlaar Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 Don't ya HATE IT when somone actually does some research on the lies and bullshit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robaus Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 "The Palestinian Center for Human Rights, the leading human rights group in Gaza Strip that documents every single Israeli attack that takes place, does not include this child's name on its list of victims." LINK You're at it yet again, Unit. The quote you give is from a pro Israeli blogspot http://blogs.timesofisrael.com But the link you give is to the Palestine Center for Human Rights. You weren't by any chance trying to bullshit the readers of this forum again, were you, Unit? You never answered the question I asked previously. What's your motive in rationalising away the death of a 4 year old.... dehumanising the victims? While you ponder that, just to bring it all to life for you that these are real children suffering read this http://www.independe...ms-8348398.html The rockets slammed in, two in succession, just after 11.30 at night. When Huda Tawfil had shaken herself awake through the confusion and terror, her first thoughts were for her baby. Seeing what she did through the smoke and flames, she burst into tears. The 20-year-old started digging through the rubble with her hands as other members of the family ran into the room and joined in. She then cradled her little girl on the way to hospital in her husband's car. There was an emergency operation, but the injuries from the shrapnel proved to be too severe. The name of Hanin Tawfil was added to a growing and particularly grim list from the latest Gaza conflict. Out of 104 civilians killed and 970 wounded, 34 and 274 respectively were children; dozens of others who survived have been orphaned and left traumatised by the violence. The figures are startling even by the vicious standards of the recent bloodlettings in this region. It is, of course, the case that rockets fired from Gaza by Palestinians, often indiscriminately, had led to casualties among young boys and girls in Israel. But the ministry of defence in Tel Aviv had repeatedly stressed in the course of this mission that its attacks were surgical and all efforts possible had been made to avoid collateral damage. Now the Palestinian Centre for Human Rights (PCHR) is preparing legal action, through its Israeli counterparts, against the Israeli authorities over civilian casualties due to military action, with a stress on child victims. [Remember: Israel is still legally the occupying power in Gaza, even though its squatters have left. As such under the Geneva Convention it has a duty of care to the people it occupies...some carer eh!] The director, Raji Sourani, said: "What has happened is truly terrible. In some cases the Israelis have said they simply got the wrong house; they were aiming at another civilian house next door. I am appalled by this logic. "The best one can say about them is that they had a massive intelligence failure; they just did not know Gaza. So there were all these civilian houses hit and, with our young population and large families, so many children were killed. In contrast, Hamas and other resistance groups like Islamic Jihad have suffered comparatively few casualties." According to PCHR and other human rights groups, the militias lost 51 killed and 29 injured. The family of Hanin Tawfil denies there were any rocket launches from its area, Zaitun, before its home was hit. Nor, the family insists, was there any warning of an impending attack, which the Israeli military sometime issues before sending in missiles and bombs. The baby's grandfather, Ahmed Abdulrahman Tawfil, said: "We were just sitting around talking when they attacked. Would we have been doing that if there were rockets being fired from near us, or if we had any notice? There was no call, nothing." Hanin's face is on a poster to highlight the suffering of children in the conflict. Her father, 22-year-old Khalid Ahmed, was bitter. "This time the Israelis were carrying out a war against boys and girls. They were trying to make a generation suffer." Zaitun, near the border with Israel, was subjected to repeated strikes in the eight days of fighting with a high number of resultant child casualties. At Gaza City's Shifa Hospital, seven-year-old Nesma Khalija lay in bed, her face calm. Her mother, Alia, stood over her, imploring her to say something. "She was in a coma after the attack. She is now awake, but she has not said anything. We don't know whether she will ever speak again," said Alia. "She has head injuries and the doctors think it may be in her mind. We don't know what kind of treatment to get or where we'll get it." Nesma was at her home in Zaitun last Monday afternoon when a missile hit the adjoining house; she was flung through the air and landed on a concrete floor. She is one of many children who will continue to suffer from trauma whatever happens to the peace deal, Ashraf al-Qudra, the director of the hospital, said. "This is obviously a problem we have had to deal with before. But this time we have been caught by surprise by the scale of it," he said. "It is something we shall do, but, in the meantime, we are lucky that here we have the family support system where relations get together to help each other." On the next bed, nine-year-old Mohammed Saadi Abu-Zhour, in a coma, was very much in need of that support. His aunt, Fetima Shahar, kept a tearful vigil; five members of the family had been killed and four others injured, among them the boy's mother, Tahanir, who suffered wounds to her head and eyes. "His mother is suffering, and she will be in no position to look after Mohammed," Mrs Sahar said. "We will have to go through difficulties for a long time. But there is no point in complaining; we just have to thank Allah for those who stayed alive." Sleep well, tonight, Unit. Hope your conscience doesn't bother you too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unit731 Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 NEW YORK TIMES "It is unclear who was responsible for the strike on Annazla: the damage was nowhere near severe enough to have come from an Israeli F-16, raising the possibility that an errant missile fired by Palestinian militants was responsible for the deaths." LINK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huumlaar Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 Gee dude you gatta stop posting the links to your lies! <<The Israeli military said it suspended airstrikes during the visit, though at least two of the familiar booms of F-16 bombardments were heard in Gaza City around 9 a.m.>> OOPS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unit731 Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 "The building was targeted because of the presence of senior terrorist members there, Israeli army spokeswoman Avital Leibovich said. One of the militants killed in the assault was Ramez Harb, head of Islamic Jihad’s media operations, who Israel said was responsible for propaganda for the group." LINK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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