Flashermac Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 The older brother was the religious nutter. The younger one is described as rather normal, well liked by his classmates. Looks like big bro talked little bro into it. Tough luck, fella ... you are deep in doodoo now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 Got him. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/apr/20/boston-suspect-dzhokhar-tsarnaev-captured-alive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobbledonk Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 Sadly, it appears that more taxpayer funds will be spent on his recovery from gunshot woulds, followed by a trial and life in prison. I dont really understand Chechnya, but these guys had every chance to put that madness behind them - instead, they chose to follow Islamic extremist nutbags on Youtube. Boston must be 'changeable' at this time of the year - our Aussie reporter looked like she was dressed for Winter in Aspen while many of the young guys around her were dressed in little more than t-shirts and jeans. Little bit surreal to see Bostonians chanting 'USA-USA' as the cops drove past - I can only imagine that the local Police dont usually enjoy that sort of reaction One of the few lighter moments was the interview with their father/uncle (I forget which) shouting forcefully into the 500 or so microphones in front of him that he knew why they did it - 'because they were LOSERS !'. Gee, cant imagine where things can possibly have gone downhill in that family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCorinthian Posted April 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 Just listened to last news conference. According to the authorities they fired over 200 rounds at the suspect last night. 200 rounds !! And they didn't knock him down??? Time for some marksmenship training. MIRANDA RIGHTS. The kid is a US citizen. One newsperson asked about MIranda rights. Nope. Don't have to give no stinkin' rights. There is an EXCEPTION in the law. You only have to inform a suspect of Miranda rights before questioning. And the suspect must be able to understand them. So you can totally skip it until you are ready to question, or the suspect gets well enough / calms down enough to be questioned. It varies by state, but I do not know any exemption to the right to council. Oh and where did you see he is a US Citizen? I missed that and cant find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroyinEwa/Perv Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 Google is your friend......... https://www.google.c....hp.azs4tHIFrnk Quite a happy day for him, in more ways than one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 Nothing tough about this boxer’s character Tamerlan Tsarnaev was a pretty good boxer, and he fashioned himself a tough guy. He was so tough he was charged with assaulting his girlfriend. Last Monday, tough guy Tamerlan Tsarnaev and his brother left bombs on the sidewalk on Boylston Street and killed an 8-year-old boy, a 29-year-old woman who grew up in Medford, and a 23-year-old Chinese graduate student at Boston University. It takes a tough guy to pack a bomb with ball bearings and nails and purposely put it in a crowd so that it will kill and maim men, women, and children. The Tsarnaevs were so tough that when they decided to kill a fine police officer named Sean Collier on Thursday night, they approached him from behind and shot Collier in the head even before Collier could get out of his cruiser. Get out the violins, because you’re about to read and hear all these stories about how poor Tamerlan Tsarnaev’s troubles had to do with the repression of the Chechens, and the hard nomadic life ethnic Chechens were forced to endure in the shambolic collapse of the Soviet Union. Spare me. Consider, instead, Lingzi Lu, the beautiful, loving Chinese woman killed in an explosion. She, too, emerged from the ruins of communism. She came from China’s rust belt, and when she got to America, she ran with it. She loved the different foods, the different cultures, the different people. Lingzi Lu came here and saw only opportunity. Tamerlan Tsarnaev came here and threw his away. Lingzi Lu nursed her friends at BU back to health when they were sick. Tamerlan Tsarnaev nursed grudges, convinced we all owed him something. Living in a society that respects and encourages diversity, he retreated into a perverse, self-righteous, judgmental view of others who didn’t share his extremist views. And in his final act of selfish venality, he enlisted for his nihilistic denouement his own little brother, brainwashing a kid who by all accounts had made the sort of friendships and social connections that he couldn’t. Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, 19, had made something of himself. He was a captain of the wrestling team at Cambridge Rindge and Latin High School, where his friends recalled him as a class clown, a dutiful student, an ordinary kid who liked to smoke a bone once in a while. Presumably his marijuana smoking incurred the disapproval of his sanctimonious brother, who embraced an extreme form of Islam and railed against people who took a drink, or parents who exposed their kids to the paganistic trappings of Harry Potter. The authorities believe it was Tamerlan, the zealot, who pulled his little and presumably impressionable brother into his orbit of overweening grievance against the very country that gave the Tsarnaev brothers more opportunity than they ever would have had if they had stayed in the troubled, poor country where they were born, Kyrgyzstan, or the troubled, poor country where their ancestors came from, Chechnya. Kyrgyzstan is one of the poorest countries spawned by the breakup of the Soviet Union. Hundreds of thousands of its 5 million people bugged out of there in the years that followed the collapse of a system of government built on repression and corruption. It appears the Tsarnaev brothers, ethnic Chechens, began a nomadic trek that eventually brought them to Cambridge. Cambridge is probably the most tolerant patch in these United States. It is a sanctuary city for immigrants. The people of Cambridge, the city government of Cambridge, have created the most inclusive, generous community to outsiders I have ever encountered. People in Cambridge go out of their way to be nice to, and genuinely supportive of, people like the Tsarnaev brothers. I wouldn’t doubt that Tamerlan Tsarnaev encountered some jerks over the years. We all do. It’s called life. If Tamerlan Tsarnaev nursed murderous grudges because it was so hard to grow up and live in Cambridge, then he was indeed, as his uncle put it, a loser. The police officers who took 19-year-old Dzhokhar Tsarnaev into custody deserve our gratitude and maybe a medal. Maybe the kid will revert to the type of person his high school classmates remember, and he’ll do the right thing and tell all. Hopefully we won’t be submitted to the pathetic victimhood speeches tough guy Tamerlan would have delivered had he not received an unhealthy dose of bullets from police officers he was trying to kill. Now that the madness is over, there will be some who say we have to figure out why the Tsarnaevs became such angry young men. No one who lost his or her life or limbs on Boylston Street last Monday did anything to create angry young men like this. And I know that 8-year-old Martin Richard, a beautiful little boy from Dorchester who was killed by the Tsarnaev brothers’ bomb, never harmed a living thing. He was a kind little boy who was unfailingly nice to his classmate, the daughter of the Boston firefighter who knelt over his body on Patriots Day. Sean Collier, the 26-year-old MIT police officer who police say was shot to death Thursday night by the Tsarnaev brothers, worked as a civilian for the Somerville Police Department, but desperately wanted to be a cop. He was thrilled when he got the call to join the MIT force last year, and he only recently learned he had landed his dream job with the Somerville PD. I would bet my life that Sean Collier would have laid down his life for anybody, including immigrants from Kyrgyzstan or Chechnya. In the end, he did lay down his life, trying to protect others. I don’t want to listen to how innocent people bear some responsibility for creating the twisted minds of the Tsarnaev brothers. Let us first bury our dead, heal our wounded, tend to our damaged first responders. Then maybe I’ll listen to that “what did we do to make them hate us†claptrap. Then maybe I’ll go to some soul-searching debate about how our foreign policy is creating too many enemies and too few allies. But then, maybe I won’t. http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/04/19/tale-two-immigrants/m3alkAoSFQWPwVJ3FXvBkI/story.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh_Hoy Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 Corinthian... I think somebody with the knowledge of "Miranda" is calling the shots this time around...versus when the guy with the diaper bomb was captured. I recall that whoever was in charge of that investigation insisted that Miranda be given. STUPID idiot ! While true that a suspect must understand the rights as provided, in this case it really needn't be done. Reason: there seems to be enough evidence against him to convict him about 10 times over. They don't need a confession. If he is tried, it will be on the facts known to most of us who have been following this story. They didn't need a confession or self-incriminating information from the diaper bomber either). The value of questioning at this point is in obtaining information regarding his recruitment, training, and possible accomplices. IRONY: this muslim/jihadist is being treated at "Beth Israel Medical Center". Any guesses as to his prognosis? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCorinthian Posted April 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 Corinthian... I think somebody with the knowledge of "Miranda" is calling the shots this time around...versus when the guy with the diaper bomb was captured. I recall that whoever was in charge of that investigation insisted that Miranda be given. STUPID idiot ! While true that a suspect must understand the rights as provided, in this case it really needn't be done. Reason: there seems to be enough evidence against him to convict him about 10 times over. They don't need a confession. If he is tried, it will be on the facts known to most of us who have been following this story. They didn't need a confession or self-incriminating information from the diaper bomber either). The value of questioning at this point is in obtaining information regarding his recruitment, training, and possible accomplices. IRONY: this muslim/jihadist is being treated at "Beth Israel Medical Center". Any guesses as to his prognosis? LOL You're right. Guy is a citizen. Also, there is a provision under what I found called "the public safety exemption" that allows 48 hours before Miranda has to be applied. (I sure never heard of that when I was with APD back in 1996!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted April 21, 2013 Report Share Posted April 21, 2013 More arrests ... now what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted April 21, 2013 Report Share Posted April 21, 2013 Hugh Hoy you "wascally wabbit" how ya doin'? You'd be happy to know my brother has been inundating me with emails and the like with how Obama is, and I quote, 'the biggest BSer in history' Flash, I just don't buy these guys are 'lone wolves'. in some manner or form others are involved. I noticed that the family of the wife of the killed suspect said it was a suprise. I find that a little hard to believe. We all have a rant about what we are pissed off about to our families. I'm sure his widow had been getting an earful. .they just didn't think he would act on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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