Malaysian Airlines Plane Missing Over Vietnam

[Flashermac]

Stolen Italian passport linked to missing Iranian

 

 

Stockholm - The passenger who used a stolen Italian passport to boarded the ill-fated Malaysia Airlines plane at the weekend was believed to be an Iranian travelling to Sweden, police said.

 

Stockholm newspaper Aftonbladet said it had been in contact with a man in Sweden who said a distant relative in Iran had been on the plane and was travelling on an Italian passport.

 

Police in the west coast city of Gothenburg told dpa they had received a missing persons report and have forwarded it to Interpol, but could not comment further.

 

 

http://www.nationmul...n-30228957.html

[Flashermac]

WHY ARE THE PASSENGERS' PHONES STILL RINGING?

 

 

 

- After three days, wouldn’t the phone batteries be dead by now?

 

Not necessarily. Smartphones are renowned for their poor battery life and will typically last up to around 24 hours. But the batteries of older phones can last considerably longer.

 

For example, the Nokia 100 boasts a standby battery life of a staggering 35 days. Smartphone batteries can also last longer if the handset isn’t being used, and especially if the phone is in Flight Mode.

 

However, if the phone is in Flight Mode, it switches off all wireless activity meaning calls wouldn’t be able to connect, effectively ruling out this theory.

 

 

- If the phone batteries are dead, wouldn’t the call go straight to voicemail?

 

In a word, yes. However, the process of sending the call to voicemail can differ depending on the service provider.

 

For example, the majority of phones will go straight to voicemail, or callers will get an out of service message if voicemail hasn’t been set up.

 

This will occur even if the phone is underwater, or not near a cell signal.

 

However, some service providers will ring once or twice before the phone goes to voicemail, or cut off. This may explain the reports that claimed phones rang before seeming to hang up.

 

 

- Some reports claim the phones are just ringing and ringing though. How is this possible?

 

Telecoms expert Alan Spencer told MailOnline that if the phones are really ringing, they can categorically not be under the sea.

 

He added that the phones will only be ringing if they are ‘switched on, not in water, the battery is charged, and [they are] near a mobile cell site.’

 

This means that if the phones are genuinely ringing, the plane needs to have landed on land – not in the sea – and be in a location where there is cell service, rather than landing in the middle of a jungle, for example.

 

 

- Why can’t network operators locate the phones?

 

A number of family members have asked the network operators why they can’t use the phone’s signal to locate the missing people.

 

Professor William Webb, a Fellow of the Royal Academy of Engineering, told MailOnline: ‘The phones definitely won't be working. They'll be underwater, out of coverage and by this time out of battery.

 

‘So there's absolutely no way they could be used for triangulation.

 

‘As to why they are ‘ringing’ it'll be the same as if they were out of coverage - in some cases it may ring before going to voicemail.’

 

 

- What about the T3212 timer I’ve read about?

 

The T3212 is a timer that causes a phone to periodically send a message to the network saying where it is.

 

But Professor Webb said this only works when the phone is turned on and it is in coverage. It won't work when the battery is dead.

 

 

- What about reports that passengers are appearing online, on the QQ social network?

 

When people sign into social networks including QQ, as well as Facebook, they appear online.

 

This is the case whether they’ve signed in on a phone, tablet, PC, and laptop.

 

if missing passengers are shown as online, they may not be using the service on their phone. Instead they may still be logged in on another device.

 

If this other device shuts down or goes into standby, however, or there is a long period of inactivity, the social network will log them out, which may explain why some accounts went from online to offline over a period of three days.

 

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2578020/Why-cellphones-missing-Malaysian-Airlines-passengers-ringing-Family-members-claim-loved-ones-smartphones-active.html

[Flashermac]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNZtz-HVy6c

[Specialist]

What is conspicuously absent from ALL of that talk about the cellphones is a statement along the lines of "Yes, we know about those cellphone reports. We have all of the phone numbers in question. We've run each one back through the wireless service providers to the cellphone electronic ID numbers, and we've queried every wireless base station in that part of the world. None of those cellphones have checked in since the airplane took off."

 

It isn't that hard to do that.

 

The critical thing is this: If any of those phones HAS checked in with a cellphone base station, it tells you that the phone landed safely on dry land, and it tells you, within a few square klicks, where the phone is. If the phone is safely on dry land, odds are that the phone's owner is, too, which means the AIRPLANE is as well. Meaning that running down those phone numbers, while UNLIKELY to help, MIGHT gve some very important information.

[zzzz]

What is conspicuously absent from ALL of that talk about the cellphones is a statement along the lines of "Yes, we know about those cellphone reports. We have all of the phone numbers in question. We've run each one back through the wireless service providers to the cellphone electronic ID numbers, and we've queried every wireless base station in that part of the world. None of those cellphones have checked in since the airplane took off."

 

It isn't that hard to do that.

 

The critical thing is this: If any of those phones HAS checked in with a cellphone base station, it tells you that the phone landed safely on dry land, and it tells you, within a few square klicks, where the phone is. If the phone is safely on dry land, odds are that the phone's owner is, too, which means the AIRPLANE is as well. Meaning that running down those phone numbers, while UNLIKELY to help, MIGHT gve some very important information.

 

It seems resonable to assume that the relatives/friends have been calling their cell phones but none of the passengers are answering.

[Coss]

Yes, one would assume that if the phones were still working and in coverage, then someone would answer. Highly unlikely that possible terrorists are standing around letting phones ring and telling everyone, "Now no-one answer!"

[zzzz]

Yes, one would assume that if the phones were still working and in coverage, then someone would answer. Highly unlikely that possible terrorists are standing around letting phones ring and telling everyone, "Now no-one answer!"

 

I see what you're getting at but my statement would still apply if the passengers aren't answering because the captors have taken their phones (scenerio). Your logic is flawed. (If one is able to answer a call, it would be news.)

[Coss]

Yes my logic is flawed, it is also tongue in cheek

[Specialist]

In a situation like this, you check EVERYTHING.

 

I'd REALLY like to know who gave the order to sit on the military radar tracking data for days, while everyone searched the wrong piece of ocean.

[Flashermac]

Malaysia seeks to confirm if 'blip' on radar off Penang was missing MH370

 

 

Malaysia's military radar had detected a "blip" that could have been the missing Malaysia Airlines jetliner in an area northwest of Penang, about 45 minutes after the plane lost contact with air traffic control on Saturday.

 

The Royal Malaysian Air Force chief Rodzali Daud said Wednesday, however, that this was still to be confirmed by experts from the United States, and corroborated with radars of neighbouring countries.

 

He said the ’plot’ was detected at 2:15am Saturday at 200 miles northwest of the island of Penang at the northern end of the Straits of Malacca.

 

However, they could not be sure that it was the missing jetliner MH370 as that sort of data is not recorded by the military radar.

 

This would be 45 minutes after the Boeing 777-200 lost contact with air traffic control about 100 miles from Kota Baru at 1.31am Saturday. It had taken off for Beijing at 12.41am Saturday from the Kuala Lumpur International Airport.

 

Tan Sri Rodzali said this ’plot’ was detected on a review of the military data recording on Saturday itself. The search operations were then immediately widened to the Straits of Malacca from the original search site in the South China Sea.

 

The search was still continuing in both areas, with 42 ships and 39 aircraft from 12 countries taking part.

 

Asked if the military radar had tracked the ’plot’ on Saturday in real time, he said it had not. He said the air force did not try to intercept that unidentified aircraft because it was classified as a civilian aircraft and not a hostile one.

 

 

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Malaysia-seeks-to-confirm-if-blip-on-radar-off-Pen-30229051.html