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The militia were not required to carry arms. It wasn't Dodge City or Tombstone. But every male citizen between 16 and 45 (sometimes 50) was required to have a musket or rifle and a certain number of rounds. Militia musters were held twice a year, and anyone who failed to show up or who showed up without his weapon would be fined. Until well into the 19th century, militia musters were held. They would elect officers and drill to some extent. In time of war, the militia would be ordered to report, and some of the members would be ordered to active duty. It was sort of a territorial army to which all male citizens were required to belong.

 

The militia in the old sense no longer exits and no musters are held. Nevertheless, "the right of the people to keep and bear arms" still remains in the Constitution. If the anti-gun folks don't like that, they need to amend the Constitution. Of course, they realise they could never achieve that and thus protest and huff and puff instead.

 

In fact, there already are restrictions on which "arms" may be maintained. This includes "destructive" firearms, such as grenade launchers, hand grenades, RPGs, fully automatic weapons etc. Until not so many years ago, military type weapons such as those base on an M16 or AK-47 were also banned. However, Congress for some reason allowed the ban on them to expire. All Congress needs to do is restore that ban, and the problem is solved. However, that would be too sensible and is thus not likely to happen.

 

p.s. Why are we discussing this in the New Zealand thread? Isn't it supposed to be about beer and babes?

 

 

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Oi it does have a Kiwi twist

 

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The Bill of Rights was invoked in New Zealand in the 1976 case of Fitzgerald v Muldoon and Others,[35] which centred on the purporting of newly appointed Prime Minister Robert Muldoon that he would advise the Governor-General to abolish a superannuation scheme established by the New Zealand Superannuation Act, 1974, without new legislation. Muldoon felt that the dissolution would be immediate and he would later introduce a bill in parliament to retroactively make the abolition legal. This claim was challenged in court and the Chief Justice declared that Muldoon's actions were illegal as they had violated Article 1 of the Bill of Rights, which provides "that the pretended power of dispensing with laws or the execution of laws by regal authority ... is illegal."[36]

 

Feel free to post on the "official Beer Thread"

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Believe it or not it is loosely based on the 1689 English Bill of Rights, so know your own history before dissing others https://en.wikipedia..._of_Rights_1689

 

 

I wouldn't dispute that, far from it.

I'm not sure if I came across as in any way 'dissing'? I don't do that. More a question of learning opinions.

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I wouldn't dispute that, far from it.

I'm not sure if I came across as in any way 'dissing'? I don't do that. More a question of learning opinions.

 

Then please accept my apologies

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Sorry to be blunt but anyone who thinks the "Second Amendment" fits into today's society is living in the past. Wake up to yourself.

 

This girl pretty much sums up your "Second Amendment"

 

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I'm not, let me be clear, fond of owning guns, except for fun (shooting tin cans etc) and hunting, target practise etc.

 

Having a gun is great, but it should only be used to shoot people, to protect oneself, from Red Neck folk like these. Note the Cross.

 

 

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Sorry to be blunt but anyone who thinks the "Second Amendment" fits into today's society is living in the past. Wake up to yourself.

 

This girl pretty much sums up your "Second Amendment"

 

 

 

So I'll be equally blunt. I already stated it above! If you don't like the 2nd amendment, revoke the damned thing or change it. The government and courts can't just ignore parts of the Constitution they don't like. Let the protestors quit their brainless marches and amend the Constitution. That's they way it's done, only they're too bloody stupid and pompous to see that.

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