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BBC:

"The protesters' aim was to make clear their utter contempt for the emergency law banning face masks and almost all covered their faces, the BBC's Robin Brant reports from Hong Kong.

"Police watched as protesters moved peacefully, chanting "Hong Kong resist" as they walked through the heart of the city, but after a few hours officers moved to end the disruption."

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More trouble - https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/world/hong-kong-police-protesters-clash-hundreds-of-shops-trashed/ar-AAJ4mPk?li=BBqdk7Q#image=AAJ4mPk_1|4

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...Hong Kong police and protesters exchanged tear gas and petrol bombs as an illegal anti-government march that attracted tens of thousands descended into chaos, with hundreds of shops trashed and Chinese banks and metro stations targeted.

After two weeks of relative calm, the major rally showed that the pro-democracy campaign had not lost support and that hardcore protesters will continue to clash with police.

Protesters dressed in black erected fiery barriers on Nathan Road, a major retail strip in the Kowloon district, as scores of riot police, shields in front, marched towards them, while others fired tear gas...

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On 10/24/2019 at 5:27 AM, Flashermac said:

The banks and businesses that were trashed are owned by China or CCP supporters. Surprise!

Oh thank goodness - one thing I can't stand is arbitrary destruction of property - glad to know this wasn't that!

 

 

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The banks and businesses might be Chinese but the automatic barriers of the MTR seem a bit of a stretch. I was in HK last week, some signs that "things" have happened there but at least during the week it all seems normal and peaceful enough. Lots of the MTR barriers have their LCD screens smashed. Octopus cards still work but you can't check your balance so easily. A number of the subway advertisement hoardings are covered now due to damage, same with some outside ATM's. All have signs saying they are damaged and out of service as a result of vandalism.

I was staying close to the Jordan MTR station on Nathan Road and traveling the MTR to Tung Chung near the airport every day. All very normal and typical HK.

Airport was a bit different. Only passengers now allowed access to the departure and arrival areas. All the shops in T2 are closed. Airport quiet and easy to pass through, no immigration queues. Hotel room rates a bargain. Great time to visit but maybe stick to weekdays for now.

 

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Hong Kong readies for more chaos as violence spreads citywide

HONG KONG (Reuters) - Hong Kong prepared for more clashes on Wednesday as anti-government protesters paralyzed parts of the Asian financial hub for a third day, with some transport links, schools and many businesses closing after an escalation of violence... ooh er.....

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-hongkong-protests/hong-kong-readies-for-more-chaos-as-violence-spreads-citywide-idUSKBN1XN04N?il=0

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I'm sure by now China has the groups fully infiltrated. They have gotten a fairly good assessment of how organized as well as how passionate, dug in they are. So, what's the end game? I don't think the protesters will be successful long term. China can crack down and militarize the whole thing easily but is worried about the international backlash politically as well as the economic costs if there are sanctions or boycotts especially with a huge recession on the horizon that has started in certain markets already (housing in some areas). 

They were better off with a slow, stripping of power over time. The flowing water over a rock trick. 

Anyway, question to the esteemed panel that has assembled on this thread. 

How do you think this whole thing will turn out? 

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5 hours ago, chocolat steve said:

How do you think this whole thing will turn out? 

Badly, China will restore order, give their puppets a little 'face', and publicly let the protestors, have a 'going forward' process that allows for future change, that will never happen.

Britain won't want to know. Brexit or lack of, will occupy the Brits when they are not wondering how Andrew gets away with stuff. Even Charles and his pet horse, are on a 'meet and greet' to NZ, now which was, not widely heralded, to drum up support for the Royals, in one of the last bastions of pro royalty,  who may or may not, care.

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