Coss Posted March 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2020 Thanks zzzz I'll have read of that today. BTW, not my numbers above, I was just googling to see if I could find support for your numbers. In any case, if there's a lessening of the 2~3% scenario, it's good news. ๐๐๐ ย ย Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baa99 Posted March 22, 2020 Report Share Posted March 22, 2020 https://www.statista.com/chart/21173/hospitalization-icu-admission-and-fatality-rates-for-reported-coronavirus-cases/ 4,226 COVID-19 cases were reported to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention as of March 16 and the organization released a preliminary report showing how the coronavirus is impacting different age groups. It analyzed hospitalizations, intensive care unit admissions and fatalities across different age groups among 2,449 patients who had a known age. The patten is similar to other countries that have experienced major outbreaks such as China and Italy with COVID-19 having the most severe impact among older people. The CDCโs analysis found that 31 percent of all cases, 45 percent of hospitalizations, 53 percent of ICU admissions and 80 percent of all fatalities from the virus occurred among adults aged 65 plus with the highest percentage of severe outcomes happening among those aged 85 and over. For those of a mathematical slant, have a look at this paper about modelling epidemics. http://www.tnstate.edu/mathematics/mathreu/filesreu/GroupProjectSIR.pdf ย Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavanami Posted March 22, 2020 Report Share Posted March 22, 2020 Not the first time China has had a virus...think 1918... https://www.history.com/news/china-epicenter-of-1918-flu-pandemic-historian-says Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Coss Posted March 23, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2020 55555 ย Damn, now I have to stay at home officially, whereas I was doing it in defiance before ย 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baa99 Posted March 23, 2020 Report Share Posted March 23, 2020 It seems the Thai government has made it impossible for Thais to return home. https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-health-coronavirus-thailand-cases/chaos-over-new-thai-entry-restrictions-on-coronavirus-idUKKBN2170FX ย The official pronouncement said Thai citizens needed a medical certificate saying they were โfit to flyโ but also a letter from a Thai embassy certifying they were citizens if they planned to return from abroad. Obviously a Thai passport can't get you into Thailand! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashermac Posted March 23, 2020 Report Share Posted March 23, 2020 Blame for Wuhan virus lies squarely with CCP Coronavirus crisis is Chinese Communist Partyโs fault and it must pay for consequences Byย David Spencer, Taiwan News, Contributing Writer KAOHSIUNG (Taiwan News) โ The hashtag "China lied, people died" has been trending around the world over the past few days as people come to terms with the colossal impact the Wuhan coronavirus is having on everyoneโs lives. It has sparked a hugely emotional response. The Chinese Communist Partyโs (CCP) left-leaning supporters have immediately played the race card and accused anyone who dares to criticize China of being racist. The CCP has leaped on this too, as its propaganda machine has gone into overdrive to try and deflect blame over the pandemic. From ludicrous conspiracies about the virus being released in Wuhan by the U.S. military to videos of people dressed in doctorโs uniforms pulling off their masks, there is no level the CCP wonโt stoop to in order to convince the world this is not their fault. At the same time, the CCP has begun promoting the fallacy of Chinaโs efforts to tackle the virus as being a great sacrifice on behalf of the world and suggesting we should be grateful. It has also pulled in the leaders of those countries and organizations that pay homage to Beijing. Various world leaders have stood up to proclaim the virus "no-oneโs fault," saying we should focus on finding a solution rather than a cause. The World Health Organization (WHO) seems more bothered about Wuhan coronavirus "stigmatizing" China than the fact it is killing thousands of people around the world. This is the same WHO that, at the behest of Beijing, insisted travel bans and restrictions were not necessary as coronavirus ripped through China. This advice played a big role in the virus being allowed to spread internationally. Yet the discredited WHO Secretary-General, Dr. Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, mysteriously remains in office and, for some reason, the world continues to listen to his flawed advice. While WHO has undoubtedly helped coronavirus spread through its kowtowing to Beijing, responsibility for it lies elsewhere. Wuhan coronavirus began in China and it spread because of the culture of corruption that the CCP has engrained into Chinese society. Responsibility for the coronavirus crisis lies with one organization, the CCP. It was the CCP that silenced doctors and other whistleblowers that first spoke out about Wuhan coronavirus as far back as September 2019 according to some internal CCP documents. It was the CCP that destroyed samples and in doing so stopped medical professionals getting an early understanding of how contagious the virus was, information that could have stopped it in its tracks. It was the CCP that refused international help in the early stages of the outbreak and refused to let WHO or other international observers into Wuhan and other infected areas. It was the CCP that covered up the outbreak by faking death and infection numbers. It was the CCP that chose to censor the internet to remove all truthful accounts of life inside coronavirus-ravaged China and continues to do so to prevent the truth from getting out. It is the CCP that continues to spread fake news and propaganda about the coronavirus outbreak making it harder to tackle its spread. It is the CCP and no-one else, that is responsible for Wuhan coronavirus sweeping the world. Letโs summarize briefly what they are responsible for. At the time of writing, there are 284,013 cases globally and 11,848 deaths. We know the data coming out of China is fake and other countries are only recording a fraction of the actual number of cases because of testing limitations, so the true numbers are likely to be significantly higher. Certainly, when the virus begins to take hold in under-developed parts of the world like Africa and Central America, the number of cases and deaths is likely to grow substantially. The CCP is to blame for these deaths. Wuhan coronavirus is affecting everyone. Workplaces and schools are closed across the globe, economies are in free-fall, and travel is all but impossible. Life as we know it has ground to a halt, the world is on its knees, and no-one can say for sure when it will start up again. The CCP is to blame for this. Yet still, the propaganda goes on. China has got the disease under control, we are told in obedient media outlets. China is showing us how to beat back the epidemic. Last week, international media reported as fact CCP claims to have zero new cases in a day for the first time. At a time when Wuhan coronavirus is rampaging around the globe, for the country of origin, with a population of 1.3 billion people, to make such an outlandish claim is utterly absurd, yet Western media lapped it up. CCP propaganda is working and in many media outlets, far from being the villain, China is being portrayed as the knight in shining armor that will show the rest of the world how to beat Wuhan coronavirus. We must not accept these lies and we must not fall for this deceit. This is a CCP virus that ultimately will be defeated by Western medicine. When this happens, the CCP must face the consequences for the death and disruption it has caused. It should pay the price both financially and politically for the mess it has caused. This situation must never be allowed to happen again and there is only one sure-fire way to ensure that is the case. The CCP must be dismantled and freedom and transparency finally delivered to the worldโs most populous nation. https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3902009?fbclid=IwAR17Tt6mc02L2p24973dk3PtIW7LoeDZD70aiGw_7n9O42T4mp6C0lm77QE ย Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Coss Posted March 23, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2020 Michigan will allow large gatherings for churches. Governor cites separation of Church and State. Oh yay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunsanuk Posted March 23, 2020 Report Share Posted March 23, 2020 Hi, > Michigan will allow large gatherings for churches. Governor cites separation of Church and State. Maybe some good will come of this after all BTW, working from home since mid last week. Have aircon on in my home office. The dog - and my wife! - are now asleep on the floor in the office Sanuk! ย Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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