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9 hours ago, buffalo_bill said:

2020 Isaan Rocket Festival early May. This must be about the craziest phenomenon on earth.

if I may suggest the Lao version, often held, across the river, in any rice field next to combustable dwellings.

My favourite drinking game.

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I read somewhere that social distancing is voluntary in Sweden. It’s a new social experiment for them, trying to go about their business as usual. As expected, Sweden has more COVID deaths than their neighbors but deaths are << 1% of the population, albeit in the thousands. The authorities do not believe it’s worth the draconian measures taken by most other countries because of the very small fraction of population becoming incapacitated by COVID,

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14 hours ago, chocolat steve said:

Can I see an example of something on Snopes that is not correct? 

The recent post...regarding Judy Mikovits...many errors

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Lucky us in Thailand!

“Our most striking observation to date is the powerful effect that solar light appears to have on killing the virus both surfaces and in the air,” Bryan said.

“We’ve seen a similar effect with both temperature and humidity as well where increasing the temperature or humidity, or both, is generally less favorable to the virus.”

“As the temperature increases, as the humidity increases with no sun involved you can see how drastically the half life goes down on that virus so the virus is dying at a much more rapid pace just from exposure to higher temperatures, and just from exposure to humidity,” Bryan said, explaining some of the items on the chart.

Once solar light is introduced to a high humidity/high temperature environment on a surface, the half life is cut down to two minutes, Bryan stated.

 

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Hi,

"The recent post...regarding Judy Mikovits...many errors "

And your proof of that is based on? The podcast doesn't count.

Sanuk!
 

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2 hours ago, khunsanuk said:

Hi,

"The recent post...regarding Judy Mikovits...many errors "

And your proof of that is based on? The podcast doesn't count.

Sanuk!
 

Criminal Charges Dropped Against Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Researcher Judy Mikovits

Judy Mikovits, who faced a series of professional and legal woes after publishing a study in Science more than 2 years ago that linked chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS) to a mouse retrovirus, has had a pending criminal case against her dropped.

Last November, the district attorney in Washoe County, Nevada, filed a criminal complaint against Mikovits that charged the virologist with illegally taking computer data and related property from her former employer, the Whittemore Peterson Institute for Neuro-Immune Disease (WPI) in Reno, Nevada. In a separate civil court that month, WPI filed suit against Mikovits over her alleged possession of similar material, which included the laboratory notebooks she compiled while doing the CFS research.

On 11 June, the district attorney's office for Washoe County filed a petition to dismiss the criminal charges against Mikovits without prejudice (which means they can file a related complaint in the future), a clerk to the Justice Court of Reno told ScienceInsider.

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2012/06/criminal-charges-dropped-against-chronic-fatigue-syndrome-researcher-judy-mikovits

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2 hours ago, khunsanuk said:

Hi,

"The recent post...regarding Judy Mikovits...many errors "

And your proof of that is based on? The podcast doesn't count.

Sanuk!
 

Waiting on a pdf to download from a US government site.

Please listen to the podcast. You will hear for yourself as to her credibility and knowledge.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=10&ved=2ahUKEwiQv6jNiIDpAhUdILcAHdXzBVAQFjAJegQIBxAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Folis.leg.state.or.us%2Fliz%2F2019R1%2FDownloads%2FCommitteeMeetingDocument%2F168087&usg=AOvVaw0lYuoVaKb2aLodpTWiyQQS

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Mikovits XMRV Seminar – Transcript with Slides

I am happy that the ProHealth organization was able to get this online so a lot of patients who are too ill to make it are able to follow online. I’d like to thank Rich Carson, I’d like to thank ProHealth for putting this together, and the HHV-6 Foundation and Kristin Loomis. It’s a pleasure to be here and to have an opportunity to speak to you about the recent discovery of XMRV in Chronic Fatigue Syndrome patients.  Thank you for inviting Judy Mikovits today.  We’ve made a special effort to learn more about the most exciting news in the world of CFS since the 1980s when major outbreaks of this disease were reported in several locations around the US, including three small towns in Nevada.

These reports came on the heels of the discovery of HIV and AIDS.  During this time, Dr Mikovits was at the NCI working in laboratories that were actively studying this new virus, when she began her doctoral program at George Washington University.  In fact, she wrote and presented her doctoral thesis on HIV latency, presenting it the same day that Magic Johnson announced he was HIV positive.  The good news is that he is still healthy after all these years, having had the opportunity perhaps to prevent a high viral load from ever occurring.

Jumping forward to 1989 brings a critical event to the life of our family.  Our daughter became ill, and suddenly we found ourselves in a black hole of medicine where no one seemed to agree on anything having to do with a disease that had been dubbed ‘Chronic EBV.’  The problem was that she didn’t have EBV or even the antibodies that would have indicated that she’d been exposed to that virus. Like you, we sought answers, but instead we found confusing and even nonsensical theories about her illness. And thus began the journey for answers.

All of us have various milestones in that journey.  Our first and probably one of our most exciting milestones was meeting Doctor Peterson, who at that time was promising that he would do all he could to help Andrea and to help this family.  Our second milestone was really meeting Dr Mikovits. And that was a wonderful and perhaps prophetic meeting.  We were at an international conference, and she had come along as a guest of the HHV-6 Foundation, when she heard a very important talk about a set of patients who were developing a rare form of cancer.  She took a leap of faith with us to develop a medical research institute when we asked her to come to Reno, and the rest is history.

Judy brought with her a scientific passion for discovery of truth, and a curiosity, with well-taught skills from the laboratory of Dr Francis Rosetti, the co-discoverer of the first retrovirus HTLV-1.  Judy has a fiery temperament and a heart of gold.  And when she is not counseling CFS and cancer patients, she teaches students, devises experiments, and travels to major conferences and universities to educate others about the intricacies of the scientific methods used to find infectious and replicating XMRV in the blood of CFS patients...

https://www.prohealth.com/library/mikovits-xmrv-seminar-transcript-with-slides-27018

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Fairness for Mikovits!

The International ME Association sponsors this Petition.

BECAUSE we have raised funds and donated to the Whittemore Peterson Institute  for two years solely or mainly  due to our trust and faith in Dr. Judy Mikovits, we ask that the Whittemore Peterson Institute acknowledge the importance of our patient support by treating Dr. Judy Mikovits fairly. 

We the undersigned patients afflicted with neuroimmune diseases, along with our families, friends and caregivers, respectfully request the Whittemore Peterson Institute to:

1.  Assure that all of Dr. Mikovits' research materials have been returned to her, and immediately return any of research materials, if any, which are still in the possession of the Whittemore Peterson Institute, or which the Whittemore Peterson Institute has forwarded to anyone else. 


2.  Request the NIH to transfer to Dr. Judy Mikovits the current R01 NIH grant and any other NIH funding currently going to WPI which was awarded during Dr. Mikovits' employment at WPI.  This request is made in order to allow Dr. Mikovits to continue her HGRV research elsewhere.

3.  Assist and facilitate the transfer of documentation and patient information, along with all cell lines and other laboratory materials that pertain to the NIH R01 grant and all other grants which Dr. Judy Mikovits is working on, in order to facilitate her continued studies in HGRV research.

4.  Take no action which would intentionally damage Dr. Judy Mikovits' reputation or credibility.

5.  Take no legal action whatsoever against Dr. Judy Mikovits.

6.  Assist in good faith , in any way requested by Dr. Judy Mikovits, for the continuation of Dr. Mikovits' research studies...

https://www.change.org/p/fairness-for-mikovits

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3 hours ago, khunsanuk said:

Hi,

"The recent post...regarding Judy Mikovits...many errors "

And your proof of that is based on? The podcast doesn't count.

Sanuk!
 

Snopes will not say who its "evaluators" are. We are supposed to trust them for their lack of biases. Everyone has biases, except apparently the folks who work for Snopes.

However, the respected Media Bias site does recognise Snopes as one of the "least biased", which means it's not perfect but is better than most.

"Overall, we rate Snopes on the left side of Least Biased based on infrequent stories that favor the left. We also rate them High for factual reporting based on transparency and proper sourcing of information. (D. Van Zandt 7/10/2016) Updated (01/11/2020)"

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/snopes/

 

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