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Not hard at all! Part of the scientific process is to publish papers so other experts in the field can examine the techniques and results. If flaws are found then the authors are asked for additional information or the paper is retracted. In the case of the Lancet paper, the private company involved in the study would not provide the data so others could verify the results.

Now what has happened during this pandemic is a lot of preprint studies have been read by the mass media. This is before the papers have been reviewed and scrutinized by experts. So the  possibility of errors is higher in preprints. :tophat:

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What we see is people and the media grabbing the studies and papers that fit their narrative and ignoring the rest.

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This is what happens when a healthcare system collapses from COVID-19 cases.

 

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/06/18/879927134/india-reports-record-spike-in-covid-19-cases-but-nixes-another-nationwide-lockdo

India reported a record spike in coronavirus cases Thursday, even as the prime minister ruled out a new nationwide lockdown.

With 12,881 new infections registered, it's the first time India's daily tally has exceeded 12,000. For most of this week, only the United States and Brazil have been adding more new cases daily.

The Health Ministry confirmed a total of 160,384 active cases Thursday, and 12,237 deaths since the pandemic began — in a population of nearly 1.4 billion. But testing rates are very low.


Hospitals in the biggest cities, Mumbai and New Delhi, are overflowing. Social media is flooded with desperate pleas from families searching for COVID-19 tests and hospital beds. Patients, unable to get admitted, have died in parking lots outside clinics and hospitals.

India has about one doctor per 1,500 citizens. In rural areas, where two-thirds of Indians live and rely almost solely on government hospitals, the ratio is one doctor to more than 10,000 people. The World Health Organization's standard is one doctor per 1,000 residents.

While government hospitals are overcrowded, some of India's elite private clinics are charging up to $950 a day for intensive care with a ventilator.

On Wednesday, Prime Minister Narendra Modi rejected media reports that his government is considering another nationwide lockdown, and told a gathering of chief ministers that they should be looking to minimize restrictions in their states.

Despite Modi's stance, individual states maintain their own restrictions. The southern state of Tamil Nadu imposed a fresh 12-day lockdown on Monday.

Nationwide, schools remain closed and international air travel is halted. Local restrictions on shopping and traffic remain in containment zones — neighborhoods with high concentrations of COVID-19 cases.

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I hadn't thought about it but in Japan it is common practice to wear a mask out in public if you have a cold or cough...and they have been doing this for decades!!! guess that lets the wind out of the sails of the anti-mask folks...

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9 hours ago, cavanami said:

in Japan it is common practice to wear a mask out in public if you have a cold or cough...and they have been doing this for decades!!!

Japan, China, Hong Kong, most of South East Asia, where've ya been Cav? Under a rock? Which rock?

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This is sad and adds more to the unknown aspect of this virus...

Tony-nominated Broadway star Nick Cordero dies at 41 after protracted battle with COVID-19

...One day after that optimistic Instagram post, Cordero fell ill. While he was initially diagnosed with pneumonia, he later tested positive for COVID-19 and was admitted to Cedars-Sinai’s intensive care unit, where doctors decided to put him on a ventilator. Cordero then developed multiple complications from the virus, starting with an infection in his lung that caused his fever to spike and blood pressure to drop; Kloots reported via her Instagram Stories that he had sustained major lung damage that involved "holes in his lungs.” During his stay in the hospital, Cordero was put on an ECMO (extracorporeal membrane oxygenation) machine to support his heart and lungs and dialysis for his kidneys, and he underwent several surgeries, including the amputation of his right leg and the insertions of a tracheostomy tube and temporary pacemaker. Kloots maintained a positive outlook as she continued to document the many ups and downs of her husband’s rocky progress with emotional daily updates in her Instagram Stories. Just days before his death, it had been revealed that Cordero would need a double lung transplant...

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/nick-cordero-dies-covid-19-015516875.html

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On 7/4/2020 at 3:34 AM, Coss said:

Japan, China, Hong Kong, most of South East Asia, where've ya been Cav? Under a rock? Which rock?

In Thailand ... where before the coronavirus you almost never saw anyone wearing a mask, except bank robbers maybe.

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Hi,

"In Thailand ... where before the coronavirus you almost never saw anyone wearing a mask, except bank robbers maybe."

Might depend on the area. Every time the pollution got bad, I usually saw loads of people wearing masks.

Sanuk!

 

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